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please don't use Motif

#494
From: Michael Tiemann
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1991 17:31
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Jim ADCOCK's problems are not everybody's problems.  In the following
message, Jim appears to be saying that his personal problems are
universal problems.

   Date: 4 Mar 91 17:10:51 GMT
   From: microsoft!jimad@uunet.uu.net  (Jim ADCOCK)
   Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA
   References: <9102242245.AA14675@mole.ai.mit.edu|
   Sender: help-g++-request@prep.ai.mit.edu

   In article <9102242245.AA14675@mole.ai.mit.edu| rms@MOLE.AI.MIT.EDU (Richard Stallman) writes:

   |In particular, if your program turns out to be a useful tool, the fact
   |that it uses Motif will make it useless for the GNU project.

   Likewise, if you use GNU in your tool, you will make it useless for
   many people in industry.

   |So use a free toolkit instead, and write a program that everyone can use.

   I agree with this suggestion, but wish to point out that FSF software is
   not "free."  If you use FSF software, then you will not have a program
   that everyone can use.  If you want to meet the goals stated in the first
   reply, you'll need to restrict yourself to using public domain software.

Since Jim wants to pretend that he is helping maintain the
intellectual integrity of this GNU newsgroup (apparently by acting as
dietary fiber), may I suggest that he focus more on the truth, and
worry less about unsupportable generalations.  In particular, he
make his message more personal, since he is expressing a personal
opinion.  To get him started (and to help others who seem to be able
to speak only for the world, and not for themselves), here's how it
should be rephrased:

	Poor me.  It's so unfortunate that I work at a company
	where They won't let me do what I want to do.  Please
	pity me because I won't be able to use the GNU software
	that everybody else enjoys.  It's my problem, I have
	to live with it, and I'm miserable.

	I hope you wind up as miserable as I am, so you will
	at least be able to sympathise with me.  Boo hoo.

Michael
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From: tiemann@eng.sun.com (Michael Tiemann)
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Subject: please don't use Motif
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