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   Subject: GCC 2.1 Documentation

   Where can I find the full documentation on GCC 2.1 ?

   I am also looking for a copy of TeX utility for VMS. The version I
   have on my machine is a pain to install and does not work
   properly,(Bits missing, Syntax errors in DCL scripts etc.).

   Can someone please direct me to the right sources for VMS TeX Latex
   texinfo etc.

	   Many Thanks

You might want to ask the USENET newsgroup:
	comp.os.vms
and/or	comp.text.tex

help-gcc is not the right place.
	
If your machine isn't on USENET, I've appended information on how to
post via mail.  Be sure to say that you need replies by mail, because
your machine isn't on USENET.

enjoy -len

PS: By the way, what do you think of look-and-feel lawsuits?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 87 19:40:30 PDT

For your further edification, I enclose an article I wrote to send to
BITNET people who want to know what USENET is, and how to get at it.

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu

 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
USENET is a store & forward broadcast network of systems that all run
the so-called "netnews" software. It can be thought of as a network of
bulletin board systems. Or a distributed computer conferencing system.
Whatever you call it, USENET has some differences from mailing lists.

First, some terms:

article		- a USENET message (see ARPANET RFC1036 for the format
			standard. You'll probably want a look at
			ARPANET RFC822 too [the ARPANET Mail format
			standard]).

newsgroup	- a topic under which articles appear. This can be
			thought of as the separator in our distribution
			channel, or as the topic name. It is analogous
			to a mailing list name (or topic). They come
			in two flavors:

	unmoderated	- anyone anywhere on the network can "post" an
				article to this newsgroup, and it will
				go *everywhere* that the newsgroup goes.

	moderated	- only one person on the network can post
				articles to this newsgroup; anyone
				wishing to submit an article to this
				newsgroup has to Email the article to
				the "moderator" so that he can pass on
				the suitability of the article to that
				newsgroup. This mechanism is used to
				keep high volume newsgroups on topic,
				and to keep nonsense articles out.

USENET distributes articles on a "pass it on" basis; when I post an
article on ucbvax in a specific newsgroup, ucbvax will send the article
by whatever means to our USENET neighbors who get that newsgroup. They,
in turn, will send the article onward to their USENET neighbors who get
that newsgroup, and so on, until my message has reached all the sites
that get the newsgroup that I posted in. Since most of the USENET
transmits articles by dial-up UUCP (UNIX to UNIX CoPy) at 1200 baud in
the wee hours of the morning, this process can take up to a week to
reach the fringes of the network, although most sites seem to get
articles in the world-wide newsgroups within 48 hours of when they
were posted.

Creating a USENET newsgroup is different from setting up a mailing list
in that you don't have to set up a distribution system for the
articles; all you do is send out a control message which creates the
newsgroup (subject, of course, to the approval of the network community
at large). You've already set up the distribution system by setting up
USENET in the first place, and a new newsgroup just subdivides the
distribution channel one more time.

If you're at a BITNET site, and you want to read the material that
flows through the USENET, there are several ways of going about it.
First and best is to install some implementation of netnews on your
system, and ask someone else already on USENET to send a you a USENET
feed (that is, all the articles in the list of newsgroups your site is
interested in that he gets). There are two implementations of netnews
for IBM VM/CMS, one from North Carolina State University (contact Bill
Verity WHV@PSUVM), and one from Princeton University Computer Center
(contact Irwin Tillman IRWIN@PUCC). The standard UNIX netnews
implementation will run under DEC VAX/VMS, if you have the TWG Eunice
UNIX emulator, which, unfortunately, costs real money. If you're a UNIX
site on BITNET, you're all set (the standard netnews distribution will
run on UNIX, of course).

Second best is to look at the attached list of ARPANET mailing lists,
which are gatewayed in some way to USENET newsgroups. This means that
if you subscribe to one of the listed ARPANET mailing lists, you'll
also see material coming from USENET. Please check with the folks at
the BITNIC (BITNET Network Information Center) before trying to mail
off to the ARPANET mailing list administrator. Given the traffic load
on the BITNET ARPANET Gateway, it is likely that the mailing list
you're interested in already has a BITNET distribution point, through
LISTSERV or some equivalent, so that you can subscribe on BITNET, and
not add to the load on the ARPANET Gateway.

Unfortunately, not all the ARPANET mailing lists are gatewayed into
USENET, and neither are all USENET newsgroups sent to the ARPANET
community. If you are willing to take on BITNET distribution duties
for a newsgroup that is not currently gatewayed into a mailing list,
it might be possible for ucbvax to send you the articles in that
newsgroup through the UCBJADE ARPANET Gateway. Send requests of this
nature to usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu.

Finally, if you just want to post something to a USENET newsgroup,
ucbvax has a mail address for each newsgroup. Newsgroup names are of
arbitrary length, with components no longer than 14 characters,
separated by dots. Examples:

	comp.unix.wizards
	comp.sys.atari.st
	rec.arts.sf-lovers

To form the mail address, translate all dots to dashes, and add an
atsign and ucbvax's name. Examples:

	comp-unix-wizards@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
	comp-sys-atari-st@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
	rec-arts-sf-lovers@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

Mailing a message to an address of that form with the appropriate
newsgroup name will cause the message to be converted into a USENET
article and posted to the named newsgroup. Note, however, that you MUST
provide a "Subject:" header in the message. If you're trying to post a
message to multiple newsgroups, there is a generic address, which if
you send it a message with the right header information, will post the
message to USENET. The address is

	post-usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

and there are two required header fields:

	Subject: (some appropriate description of your message)
	Newsgroups: (list of newsgroups separated by commas)

Example:

	Subject: Some serious thoughts on Philosophy & Politics
	Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.philosophy.misc

Note the absence of spaces between the newsgroup names.

Whew! I hope this explains some of what USENET is about, and what we
can and can't do about getting USENET into BITNET. I'm available at
the addresses in my signature for answering questions, provided they
don't require me to type in another magnum opus like this one to give
a proper response (after all, I'm *busy*!!).

	USENET administrator for ucbvax,
	providing NNTP service with a :-)

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!usenet	usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
----------------------------------------------------------------------
enjoy -len 
 might want to ask the USENET newsgroup:
	
	
If your machine isn't on USENET, I've appended information on how to
post via mail.  Be sure to say that you need replies by mail, because
your machine isn't on USENET.

enjoy -len

PS: By the way, what do you think of look-and-feel lawsuits?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 87 19:40:30 PDT

For your further edification, I enclose an article I wrote to send to
BITNET people who want to know what USENET is, and how to get at it.

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu

 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
USENET is a store & forward broadcast network of systems that all run
the so-called "netnews" software. It can be thought of as a network of
bulletin board systems. Or a distributed computer conferencing system.
Whatever you call it, USENET has some differences from mailing lists.

First, some terms:

article		- a USENET message (see ARPANET RFC1036 for the format
			standard. You'll probably want a look at
			ARPANET RFC822 too [the ARPANET Mail format
			standard]).

newsgroup	- a topic under which articles appear. This can be
			thought of as the separator in our distribution
			channel, or as the topic name. It is analogous
			to a mailing list name (or topic). They come
			in two flavors:

	unmoderated	- anyone anywhere on the network can "post" an
				article to this newsgroup, and it will
				go *everywhere* that the newsgroup goes.

	moderated	- only one person on the network can post
				articles to this newsgroup; anyone
				wishing to submit an article to this
				newsgroup has to Email the article to
				the "moderator" so that he can pass on
				the suitability of the article to that
				newsgroup. This mechanism is used to
				keep high volume newsgroups on topic,
				and to keep nonsense articles out.

USENET distributes articles on a "pass it on" basis; when I post an
article on ucbvax in a specific newsgroup, ucbvax will send the article
by whatever means to our USENET neighbors who get that newsgroup. They,
in turn, will send the article onward to their USENET neighbors who get
that newsgroup, and so on, until my message has reached all the sites
that get the newsgroup that I posted in. Since most of the USENET
transmits articles by dial-up UUCP (UNIX to UNIX CoPy) at 1200 baud in
the wee hours of the morning, this process can take up to a week to
reach the fringes of the network, although most sites seem to get
articles in the world-wide newsgroups within 48 hours of when they
were posted.

Creating a USENET newsgroup is different from setting up a mailing list
in that you don't have to set up a distribution system for the
articles; all you do is send out a control message which creates the
newsgroup (subject, of course, to the approval of the network community
at large). You've already set up the distribution system by setting up
USENET in the first place, and a new newsgroup just subdivides the
distribution channel one more time.

If you're at a BITNET site, and you want to read the material that
flows through the USENET, there are several ways of going about it.
First and best is to install some implementation of netnews on your
system, and ask someone else already on USENET to send a you a USENET
feed (that is, all the articles in the list of newsgroups your site is
interested in that he gets). There are two implementations of netnews
for IBM VM/CMS, one from North Carolina State University (contact Bill
Verity WHV@PSUVM), and one from Princeton University Computer Center
(contact Irwin Tillman IRWIN@PUCC). The standard UNIX netnews
implementation will run under DEC VAX/VMS, if you have the TWG Eunice
UNIX emulator, which, unfortunately, costs real money. If you're a UNIX
site on BITNET, you're all set (the standard netnews distribution will
run on UNIX, of course).

Second best is to look at the attached list of ARPANET mailing lists,
which are gatewayed in some way to USENET newsgroups. This means that
if you subscribe to one of the listed ARPANET mailing lists, you'll
also see material coming from USENET. Please check with the folks at
the BITNIC (BITNET Network Information Center) before trying to mail
off to the ARPANET mailing list administrator. Given the traffic load
on the BITNET ARPANET Gateway, it is likely that the mailing list
you're interested in already has a BITNET distribution point, through
LISTSERV or some equivalent, so that you can subscribe on BITNET, and
not add to the load on the ARPANET Gateway.

Unfortunately, not all the ARPANET mailing lists are gatewayed into
USENET, and neither are all USENET newsgroups sent to the ARPANET
community. If you are willing to take on BITNET distribution duties
for a newsgroup that is not currently gatewayed into a mailing list,
it might be possible for ucbvax to send you the articles in that
newsgroup through the UCBJADE ARPANET Gateway. Send requests of this
nature to usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu.

Finally, if you just want to post something to a USENET newsgroup,
ucbvax has a mail address for each newsgroup. Newsgroup names are of
arbitrary length, with components no longer than 14 characters,
separated by dots. Examples:

	comp.unix.wizards
	comp.sys.atari.st
	rec.arts.sf-lovers

To form the mail address, translate all dots to dashes, and add an
atsign and ucbvax's name. Examples:

	comp-unix-wizards@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
	comp-sys-atari-st@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
	rec-arts-sf-lovers@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

Mailing a message to an address of that form with the appropriate
newsgroup name will cause the message to be converted into a USENET
article and posted to the named newsgroup. Note, however, that you MUST
provide a "Subject:" header in the message. If you're trying to post a
message to multiple newsgroups, there is a generic address, which if
you send it a message with the right header information, will post the
message to USENET. The address is

	post-usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

and there are two required header fields:

	Subject: (some appropriate description of your message)
	Newsgroups: (list of newsgroups separated by commas)

Example:

	Subject: Some serious thoughts on Philosophy & Politics
	Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.philosophy.misc

Note the absence of spaces between the newsgroup names.

Whew! I hope this explains some of what USENET is about, and what we
can and can't do about getting USENET into BITNET. I'm available at
the addresses in my signature for answering questions, provided they
don't require me to type in another magnum opus like this one to give
a proper response (after all, I'm *busy*!!).

	USENET administrator for ucbvax,
	providing NNTP service with a :-)

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!usenet	usenet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
----------------------------------------------------------------------
enjoy -len