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Re: Why some PC C compilers are useless

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From: Bernd Hentig
Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 08:39
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In article <1992May12.070614.1764@shawn.uucp> root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor) writes:
>pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson) writes:
>
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>FLAME ON
>
>On the other hand, Borland's C++ compiler works out of the box, while
>f*cking GCC2.1's g++ is like pulling teeth to ever get working (assuming
>you actually DO get it working, and assuming you can *guess* what to
>do to get libg++ 2.0 to even link a sample program).
>
>FLAME OFF
>
>I'd love to use GCC 2.1 for learning C++.  I have spent the last two years
>trying to build any version of g++ on Interactive (386) UNIX.  I have 
>wasted many hours, appealed for help over and over, and have NOTHING to
>show for it.  I am not stupid, but neither am I a compiler guru.  My
>patience is at an end.
>
>Mark Jeghers
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Hmmm, I'd love to use g++, too and didn't get it to run on ISC till now.
However, as I do know it works great for Ultrix, AIX (I installed g++2.1 on 
these machines :) and gcc works for ISC (out of the box, by the way)
I thought about where the problems with FSF / Cygnus are and even had
some discussion with a guy at cygnus.
I do think (honestly) that the gurus developing things like gcc and gdb
are not working on PC's like ISC/SCO 386 but on professional machines
like SunSparc386, Ultrix or HP, so real support for PC - Unix is off the
way.
People like you and me (business users, people having Unix at home, etc)
who can just afford ISC/SCO are usually not gurus (they wouldn't have
bought Interactive or SCO if they were), so they cannot adapt FSF tools
to their machines.

What remains, is a bitter taste of GNU/FSF tools for some of us who don't
have the money or skill.
However, I do not think anybody should blame the FSF or Cygnus people
because of this, but we in this networking community should come together
and think about a solution.

I do admire the work FSF has done over the past years and I do know how
much work it is to keep even the tiniest source collection together and 
working for only one or two machines.

Cygnus has promised to support libg++ for free and I think you should
give them the chance to prove themselves, at least until libg++-2.1
and g++-2.2 come out (I think, that is where your problem is).

How about a newsgroup gnu.gcc.discussion ??? :)
Bernd

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This is not the opinion of my employer, all other people in this company
use B**land C++ (urghhh !), but I'd like to do OO programming on a real OS :)
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From: behe@inasys.UUCP (Bernd Hentig)
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Subject: Re: Why some PC C compilers are useless
Keywords: C, MSDOS, GCC, performance, flame
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Date: 14 May 92 08:39:45 GMT
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