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Re: letter about GCC in Sun Expert

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From: John Clark
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 1990 22:00
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In article <9010080203.AA27665@pogo> rms@AI.MIT.EDU (Richard Stallman) writes:
>Rather than having the FSF or any official spokesperson write a
>rebuttal, I think it would be much better for the users of GCC to

I have used GCC on several different systems, Masscomp(Concurrent),
Sun3's and Sun4's, as well as a BSD 4.3 port which I'm currently
working on. As with all proprietary CC's Sun's offering will
probably do fine on a native sun to generate native code. But as
soon as one diverges from that usage, sun offering becomes expensive
if not impossible.

However, these may be attributes which Sun may not care to support.
i.e computer system independence. As for the support issue, Sun
appears to be moving toward an all Sparc product line revue, so
support for Sun3's as well as any 680x0 based system will decline.
I'm sure that at this time there would be protestations from Sun on
this issue but having observed DEC's support of PDP's after VAX,
Apple's support of anything after the ][, IBM's support for anything
without a big bank roll, I think Sun will follow suite.

Why I would what alternative support for systems stems from a desire
on my part to be able to choose the approriate hardware for the job
than 'fit' brand X in because that the only tools support I have.
GNU tools offer me that choice, Sun only does not.

Using GNU tools for X-development is not without it's problems. In
fact my major criticism of the GNU tools is that most tools require
a unix based system to be used to use the tools. Porting tools to
small non-unix based systems is plagued with problems or nearly
impossible. I my work I often make or take the time to port the
tools to system X. But if system X is more difficult than say a week
or two per tool I usually live without it.

As for Optimizer capability I do not have much comment since I have
not had a great need over the standard register allocation schemes.
On the support issue I have found GNU software much more available,
al beit not absolutely 100% quality assured as may be available from
Sun. But then the Sun offering is not 100% bug free and I have found
accessability to Sun software developers nil, were as the GNU
developers are typically 'on line' or at least nearer by to respond
to problems. It's amazing what money won't buy.

 or support for new releases
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Subject: Re: letter about GCC in Sun Expert
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