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Article #1061Re: "official" FSF position on apple
From: Steve Peltz
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:17
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:17
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In article <1992Sep28.111751.13586@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >I think what he's getting at is that you can't buy those ROMS unless you get a >Mac wrapped around them. If you're getting an upgrade or a replacement, you >have to send the old ones back. One thing I'm puzzled no one has tried doing is buying copies of MacWorks Plus from Sun Remarketing, which (somehow or other) got rights to it from Apple. They sell a lot of old Mac equipment, including the Lisa (Mac XL), which is what you use MacWorks on. It is a complete ROM image, fully compatible with the version of the ROM in a Mac Plus (which is still reasonably compatible with most software). Back when I owned a Lisa, I looked at the load file format, and I think it would be pretty easy to write a bootstrap loader that would work with a (legally, reasonably cheaply bought) copy of MacWorks. Note that it also comes with a copy of the Mac system software. It would probably work on any 680x0 machine, with only minimal patching, although something with memory mapping would probably be necessary (020 with MMU or 030 and up). The Lisa had a homegrown MMU, and that might be the only significant patching required. Now, this wouldn't be freed software, but it could vastly undercut Apple's monopoly on their ROMs. I'd also think that someone could come up with most of what is in the ROMs, and make it compatible with most programs (possibly with the exception of Microsoft and Apple programs, notorious for using undocumented features). Before System 7, many/most programs came with versions of the system on the distribution disk, and that's where a lot of the "Apple look and feel" is (in the system software, and in the applications that are designed to run on a Macintosh). They surely can't claim they are violating their own supposed copyrights. -- Steve Peltz Internet: peltz@cerl.uiuc.edu PLATO/NovaNET: peltz/s/cerl
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!olivea!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!peltz From: peltz@cerl.uiuc.edu (Steve Peltz) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: "official" FSF position on apple Message-ID: <BvB79p.3L3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Sep 92 22:17:49 GMT References: <1a2u96INNbtp@uwm.edu> <HmeRRB19w165w@mantis.co.uk> <1992Sep28.111751.13586@NeoSoft.com> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: Computer Based Education Research Lab - University of Illinois Lines: 33