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Re: Making Mach build with non-CMU tools (suggestions)

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From: gip2 course
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 10:26
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In <STEINARB.92Oct4172851@hagtorn.idt.unit.no> steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:

>One of the files in the docs/notes directory of mach.cs.cmu.edu
>mentions that the Mach people at CMU are working on moving the
>Makefiles over to a format usable by a freely available Make (The OSF
>ODE Make based on the BSD-Reno Make from the). This work has been put
>on low priority pending a favorable settlement of the BNR-2 lawsuit.
Can't they just take GNU make and modify that?

>It also has to be a problem for the FSF. They would seem to
>need an OS kernel that can be configured and compiled without a BSD
>license.
What about BSDSS and POE? And there is Linux, which is not very
portable but large parts of it might be useful.

>I have the following suggestions to remedy this problem:

> 1. Change GNU Make to support the same facilities as CMU Make
That is probably the best solution at this moment. It is independent
of what CMU does. If they change their makefiles, we can switch to
GNU make, pmake, or whatever they use. If they don't, then that's
ok too.

> 2. Do the changes necessary to the CMU Makefiles to make them work
>    with the ODE Make (or the GNU Make for that matter), and nicely
>    ask CMU to start using these Makefiles in their distribution.
But that leaves you at the 'mercy' of CMU. It might be that they are
not willing to change and that means that a lot of work is lost...

>Suggestion 2 is the most desirable solution. It is however a biiig
>job. It is not "fun" enough that anyone ever is likely to sit down and
>do it for free, which means that some company or organization will
>have to pay someone to do the work.
If I knew what to do, I might do it. You're right, it won't be fun, but
there is plenty of it behind the horizon. :-)

>The question: is who is going to do it? CMU don't have any incentives
>for the time being. OSF? FSF? I don't know.
The incentive is to be able to have a free Mach OS on your pet machine.

I'll have a look in the docs to see if I can set up a mailing list.

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