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Re: Fund raising at the FSF

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From: Michael Zeleny
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 04:18
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In article <9301021752.AA25483@life.ai.mit.edu> 
tower@ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) writes:

>Date: 2 Jan 93 09:39:01 GMT
>From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)

>>In article <9212300616.AA25845@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> 
>>rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) writes:

RMS:
>>If you'd like us to develop more software, I hope you will order some
>>CDs or tapes and thus help us pay more programmers.  80 CDs, ordered
>>at the company price, will support one programmer for a year.

MZ:
>Not counting the overhead costs, this amount would appear to be less
>than half of the 1985 dollars you paid to your first employee.  Not
>only are you a damn good capitalist, but an efficient slave-driver,
>too.

LT:
>As the first paid person rms had to work on GNU software, I like to
>clarify a few facts:
>     - i was paid $30,000 for a year work by a third party, who
>assigned me to work with rms on GNU software.
>     - 80 * $400 = $32,000.
>
>If you inflation adjust 32,000 1992 dollars to 30,000 1985 dollars,
>Zeleny statement that present FSF employees are making less then half
>what I was paid in 1985 is close, but the actual amount is a good bit
>more then half.

Hi, Len.  I was there, remember?  In any case, my point is that the
important things in life, -- rent, booze, rides, tuition, books,
smokes, theater tickets, and so on, -- have all gone up in price more
than 100%.  The only important items I can get cheaper these days are
ex-commie goods, like black caviar and exotic women.

LT:
>FSF's employees are not slaves though.  They are all working for FSF of
>their own free will.

Sure they do.  And some slaves sold themselves into slavery of their
own free will.  Like I say, I have no idea whether the above figure
includes overhead, as it ought to; but regardless of that, the implied
maximum figure is way below par for professional work, particularly
when Stallman's original penny-pinching rationale of "they have to
show that they are doing it for the idea" no longer applies as FSF is
looking more and more like a conventional software company.

>-len
>

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
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