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Article #1448Re: Fund raising at the FSF
From: Michael Zeleny
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 04:18
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 04:18
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In article <9301021752.AA25483@life.ai.mit.edu> tower@ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) writes: >Date: 2 Jan 93 09:39:01 GMT >From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) >>In article <9212300616.AA25845@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> >>rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) writes: RMS: >>If you'd like us to develop more software, I hope you will order some >>CDs or tapes and thus help us pay more programmers. 80 CDs, ordered >>at the company price, will support one programmer for a year. MZ: >Not counting the overhead costs, this amount would appear to be less >than half of the 1985 dollars you paid to your first employee. Not >only are you a damn good capitalist, but an efficient slave-driver, >too. LT: >As the first paid person rms had to work on GNU software, I like to >clarify a few facts: > - i was paid $30,000 for a year work by a third party, who >assigned me to work with rms on GNU software. > - 80 * $400 = $32,000. > >If you inflation adjust 32,000 1992 dollars to 30,000 1985 dollars, >Zeleny statement that present FSF employees are making less then half >what I was paid in 1985 is close, but the actual amount is a good bit >more then half. Hi, Len. I was there, remember? In any case, my point is that the important things in life, -- rent, booze, rides, tuition, books, smokes, theater tickets, and so on, -- have all gone up in price more than 100%. The only important items I can get cheaper these days are ex-commie goods, like black caviar and exotic women. LT: >FSF's employees are not slaves though. They are all working for FSF of >their own free will. Sure they do. And some slaves sold themselves into slavery of their own free will. Like I say, I have no idea whether the above figure includes overhead, as it ought to; but regardless of that, the implied maximum figure is way below par for professional work, particularly when Stallman's original penny-pinching rationale of "they have to show that they are doing it for the idea" no longer applies as FSF is looking more and more like a conventional software company. >-len > cordially, mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!hsdndev!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc10.harvard.edu!zeleny From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF Message-ID: <1993Jan2.231845.18945@husc3.harvard.edu> Date: 3 Jan 93 04:18:44 GMT References: <9301021752.AA25483@life.ai.mit.edu> Organization: Harvard University Science Center Lines: 56 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc10.harvard.edu