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Re: Fund raising at the FSF

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From: Michael Zeleny
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 15:24
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In article <1993Jan7.130229.8014@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU> 
idall@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Ian Dall) writes:

>In article <1993Jan3.171845.18963@husc3.harvard.edu>
>zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:

X:
>>>"The use of GNU" does NOT place you under any legal obligation to
>>>anyone or anything.  Only the redistribution of GNU places you under
>>>legal obligations to the copyright holder, the FSF.

MZ:
>>The use of GNU places me under a reciprocal obligation which limits
>>its usufruit, regardless of whether or not I ever exercise my physical
>>ability to do so.  I know that it may be hard to figure out, but feel
>>free to ask somebody in your philosophy department about the meaning
>>of obligation.

ID:
>But it is not the use of the software which places you under the
>obligation. You have a legal obligation to not include FSF software in
>a proprietory product (paraphrased) but that obligation exists whether
>or not you use the software. There is no *additional* legal obligation
>incurred in you using the software so it is in that sense free.

Doesn't it bother you that the same thing can be said about System V?

ID:
>You, and others, will never agree that the FSF definition of "free" is
>a reasonable one, so why not agree to differ. This interminable debate
>never gets anywhere.

Do you mean that there is more than one truth of the matter?

>-- 
> Ian Dall           life (n). A sexually transmitted disease which afflicts
>                              some people more severely than others.
>   ACSnet: idall@augean.oz
> Internet: idall@augean.oz.au

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
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