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Re: GNU lists are not for advertisements!

#2317
From: Paul Davey
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1991 13:03
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>>>>> On 17 Nov 91 00:10:26 GMT, jim@crom2.rn.com (James P. H. Fuller) said:



James> consp04@bingsunq.bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Dan Boyd) writes:

> There isn't a gateway between the groups.  
>
> People post to both by not editing the Newsgroups: line.
>
> There is no technical fix for this problem.


James>      May I quote from a message from rms that recently turned up in
James> comp.emacs?

> From comp.emacs Sat Nov 16 16:01:32 1991
> From: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman)
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
> Subject: Books we can't redistribute
> Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.
> ai.mit.edu

James>      There is a gateway between the GNU mailing list and both gnu.emacs.help
James> and comp.emacs.

No,  There is a gateway between the mailing list
help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu and the newsgroup gnu.emacs.help

James>      As for editing the Newsgroups: line, why should anyone bother to do that?
James> Just to spare the FSF's tender feelings? ...

No, to avoid posting messages to inappropriate groups.


James> I have determined that almost all the
James> gnu.* <--> comp.emacs crossposting originates from within the gnu hierarchy.  I
James> did this by grepping around in the comp.emacs newsspool directory on this sys-
James> tem for Newsgroups: lines containing both comp.emacs and a gnu group.  Of 96
James> spooled messages I found 31 messages posted to gnu.something and crossposted to
James> comp.emacs, and 3 count 'em 3 messages posted to comp.emacs and crossposted to
James> the gnu hierarchy.  I am of course aware that many of the messages with gnu
James> first in line are followups, but in all such cases the thread was started by
James> someone posting to a gnu group and crossposting to comp.emacs.  

...

James> 2312:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs

etc...

No you established that many messages are (cross)posted to
gnu.emacs.help and comp.emacs and the gnu.emacs.help is listed first.

As far as I am aware cross posting is the same as posting.
The order of the newsgroups a message is entered into is not
significant (News wizards please correct this if I am wrong).

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Subject: Re: GNU lists are not for advertisements!
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