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consp04@bingsunq.bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Dan Boyd) writes:

> There isn't a gateway between the groups.  
>
> People post to both by not editing the Newsgroups: line.
>
> There is no technical fix for this problem.


     May I quote from a message from rms that recently turned up in
comp.emacs?

> From comp.emacs Sat Nov 16 16:01:32 1991
> From: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman)
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
> Subject: Books we can't redistribute
> Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.
> ai.mit.edu

     There is a gateway between the GNU mailing list and both gnu.emacs.help
and comp.emacs.


     As for editing the Newsgroups: line, why should anyone bother to do that?
Just to spare the FSF's tender feelings?  I have determined that almost all the
gnu.* <--> comp.emacs crossposting originates from within the gnu hierarchy.  I
did this by grepping around in the comp.emacs newsspool directory on this sys-
tem for Newsgroups: lines containing both comp.emacs and a gnu group.  Of 96
spooled messages I found 31 messages posted to gnu.something and crossposted to
comp.emacs, and 3 count 'em 3 messages posted to comp.emacs and crossposted to
the gnu hierarchy.  I am of course aware that many of the messages with gnu
first in line are followups, but in all such cases the thread was started by
someone posting to a gnu group and crossposting to comp.emacs.  

     The moral of this tale is: since posters to the gnu groups (including offi-
cial representatives of the FSF) insist on repeatedly creating Newsgroups: 
lines containing both gnu and non-gnu groups and turning these loose on the
net, they have NO business complaining about the non-GNU-politically-correct
content of any followups that may return to sacrosanct GNU territory.  To com-
plain about followups to a Newsgroups: line YOU sent out is like digging holes
in the sidewalk and complaining when somebody falls in.  It just makes you look
like an arrant idiot -- or (let's be generous to certain well-known GNUrus who
often turn up in comp.emacs) perhaps an idiot-savant.


     Data follows:

     in /usr/spool/news/comp/emacs
     grep gnu ???? |grep Newsgroups: >output.file

2312:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2313:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2318:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2321:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2323:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.sources,comp.emacs
2324:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.sources,comp.emacs
2325:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.sources,comp.emacs
2327:Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help
2329:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2332:Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.sources
2343:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2346:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2348:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2350:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2357:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2360:Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.sources
2365:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2372:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2374:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2375:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2380:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2381:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2382:Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help,comp.misc,comp.software
 -eng
2383:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2385:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2386:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.sources,comp.emacs
2387:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2388:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2390:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2392:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2394:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2395:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2396:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2397:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2399:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2401:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2403:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2404:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2406:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
2407:Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs

 
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