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Article #72625Re: An attempt (probably in vain)
From: Michael I Bushnell
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1992 23:11
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1992 23:11
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In article <1992Jan18.070335.26058@alphalpha.com> nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes: >1: Go to a PC software store and count the number of dismal editors, >compilers, and debuggers. While there are a few shining lights, the >others still manage to make a living, precisely because of the >software copyright system. They are lousy and incompetent >programmers, and our society continues to support them. That is a >pretty large social cost. After your cogent explanation of the differences between the different copyright models you now have totally confused me. In what way does the current commercial software system allow people to get away with selling bad software? And in what way would the GNU system change it? Are you implying that people buy the bad stuff because they can't afford the good stuff? And does that therefore mean that under the GNU model there would only ever be one version of any given type of product? I think not. What I mean is this. If software is not excellent, then its producers won't get any money. Nobody will shell out donations; nobody will pay money hoping to get more software in the future. Only excellent software will get money. With a market, instead, you get money proportional to your excellence. In the current state of affairs, that gives a lot af dismal programmers a lot of money. >editors, compilers, etc. Large numbers of people get tricked (I can't >think of any other word that applies) into supporting these people, How are they tricked? Actually, on a slightly different tack. Cygnus has recently posted a commercial advertisement (although noone seems to have complained :-) to a number of groups. Sun is unbundling their compilers. Cygnus has offered to make gcc commercial quality on Sparc for $200K, or $2000/customer for 100 customers. This is exactly the model that the FSF claims is the future of software. Now I actually would not be suprised if they raised the money, but I would expect a significant portion to come donations, most likely from hardware vendors like Sun or the Sparc-clone manufacturors. If they can in fact persuade 100 customers to dish out $2000 each for something that everyone else will get for free I will be _very_ impressed. It's a great ideal, but it's not human nature. I don't care whether it's hardware people or not who pay the money. That is a growing source of income for free software. If that makes it work, then why insist that "customers" pay the money? They do anyway, just indirectly. -mib
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e7ab4faaac0aba9b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-01-21 15:54:54 PST Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!yale!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!mib From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell) Subject: Re: An attempt (probably in vain) In-Reply-To: nazgul@alphalpha.com's message of Sat, 18 Jan 92 07:03:35 GMT Message-ID: <MIB.92Jan21181133@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Sender: news@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu Organization: Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA References: <MIB.92Jan14193341@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <7sLLeB3w164w@mantis.co.uk> <MIB.92Jan16160732@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <1992Jan18.070335.26058@alphalpha.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1992 23:11:33 GMT Lines: 48