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Effects of the GPL (was Re: Free GNU Regex Compatible Regexp Library)

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From: Michael Richardson
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 08:00
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In article <1992Jan14.042351.11637@alphalpha.com> nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes:
>In article <1992Jan12.035558.10335@Sandelman.OCUnix.on.ca> mcr@Sandelman.OCUnix.on.ca (Michael Richardson) writes:
>>  The people writing copyleft'ed software don't have to make it
>>copyleft. Even if I write XYZApp and build and compile it with bison
>
>Quite true.  I'm just suggesting that if there were an alternative
>standard copyright people might use it instead.

  I'm not sure I understand this. There are basically three
variations:  
  a) I own all rights, and license people to do certain things.
(normal commerical software, and ask-me-first freely-redistributable)
  b) I give up all rights (PD)
  c) I retain rights and license everyone to do everything except remove
these rights from others. (GPL)

  Granted there might be other usefull variations, but I have yuet to
hear them.
  
>...GM, Ford, President, nationalities and other strange stuff...

  But the are important. The GPL and FSF is about competitive service
rather than monopolistic price grouging and software hoarding.

>>  Yes. We/they using the systems of software hoarding to make sure
>>that the software hoarders can't hoard our/their software. [I
>
>That's a real important "/" there.  GPL ensures both.  Me, I'm
>perfectly happy with just the "our" part.  I'm merely suggesting
>that I might not be the only one.

  What? The GPL doesn't apply to anyone's code that doesn't want it
to. If you use someone else's code, you must live by whatever
restrictions they put on it. The '/' used is because I'm attempting
not to put words in FSF's mouth, but still express an opinion that I
believe that they share. 
  
>>  Worse, people that wish to take public code and restrict it so
>>they can sell it (rather than their service), are saying that they
>>deserve a monopoly on selling this code. Fine, I'll willing to grant
>
>That certainly isn't what I've been saying.

  BUT! If you want to have totally unrestricted code, you need PD
code. What if you take my ask-me-first regexp library and use it
to build an embedded control system for a ICBM. (As in: % nuke *burg)
If you ask me for my permission, you are most certainly going to get
the answer `no' --- have I not expressed a moral and political opinion
here? 

>>created. The copyleft prevents people from using your code without
>>consulting you. 
>I'm merely pointing out that it does quite a bit more than that.  If

  Like what? Give me some evidence.






  


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From: mcr@Sandelman.OCUnix.on.ca (Michael Richardson)
Subject: Effects of the GPL (was Re: Free GNU Regex Compatible Regexp Library)
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