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Article #72766Re: Too Good to be True?
From: Joe Buck
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1992 04:04
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1992 04:04
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In article <00gceB9w164w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (en font terrible) writes: >> OK, I'll bite... If the code avialable from FSF is any indication, I'd >> say everyone benefits from their efforts. If their code did not have >> a GNU copyleft, how would it have helped everyone? > >By providing people with useful programs and source code they can use to >develop other programs. I'll ignore the obvious comeback and deal only with the commercial benefits of the GPL, which is a different angle than is usually discussed here. Just about everyone who's brought out a RISC chip lately has ported gcc to it; in many cases it's the only compiler available for the chip. gcc was originally written for the Vax and the 68000; the feedback provided by the porters, TOGETHER WITH THEIR SOURCE, made it far easier to port gcc to each additional chip and architecture. Without the GPL, each vendor would have started with gcc anyway (why not? It's a high quality piece of work they could get free), but not sent their own sources back to FSF. Result: lots of people very expensively reinventing the wheel. Instead, gcc has become easier and easier to port. Now there's a community of people inside comanies that normally compete with each other, all working on getting gcc version 2 up to snuff. When the guy at Data General finds a way of making code on the 88000 run a bit faster, often the trick he used applies to some other RISC machine. Instead of hiding it as a trade secret, it gets sent out and possibly picked up by the guy at AMD doing the 29000 port. And so on. Conclusion: at least in the case of gcc, lots of people have benefited a great deal from the GPL, and would have benefited less if it had been licensed like the X window system (although GNU extremists still need to acknowledge that there has been a great deal of contribution of source to the X consortium by vendors). I don't necessarily think that everyone should use the GPL; I don't like telling people what to do so I tend to prefer X-windows-type licensing on the free software I produce. But I must acknowledge that the world has benefited substantially at least in the case of gcc from the GPL. -- Joe Buck jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu "If we face a recession, we should not lay off employees; the company should sacrifice a profit. It's management's risk and management's responsibility. Employees are not guilty." -- Akito Morita, chairman of Sony
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e71af1b1f401c58d X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-01-10 20:13:06 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!forney.berkeley.edu!jbuck From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Too Good to be True? Message-ID: <kmsr60INNsni@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 11 Jan 92 04:04:16 GMT Article-I.D.: agate.kmsr60INNsni References: <RICH.92Jan9174102@kappa.Rice.edu> <00gceB9w164w@mantis.co.uk> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu