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Article #72974Re: Copyleft
From: mathew
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1991 17:10
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1991 17:10
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barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes: > In article <23053@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM (David Chase) w > > It is, in fact, > >more cost-effective for me to buy the next release of MacWrite or > >Think-C than it is for me to enhance it or fix it myself, and I'm > >actually someone with years of experience programming and fixing bugs > >in other people's code. > > When you say that it's more cost-effective, are you including the value of > time? New releases of most applications come out on the order of every six > months to a year. If you encounter a problem with the version of MacWrite > that was just released yesterday, you'll probably have to live with it for > a year before you can buy the next release. And then you still have to > hope that they fixed the bug. You're confusing availability of source code with freedom of redistribution. Look at MINIX. It's commercial copyrighted code. Yet if I find a bug in the OS or one of the applications, I can fix it myself from the sources. I pick up patches on the net from people who have found bugs. And if I want, I can distribute patches for my fixes to whoever I want. So what are the enormous problems with MINIX's system of distribution which the GPL will solve? 1. That I can't give away a copy of MINIX to all my friends at no personal cost, and 2. that I can't sell my own product based on MINIX code. Well, as a user neither of those are problems for me. > > For someone who is just a user and not a > >programmer, I cannot see how this would ever make sense. > > If you'd be willing to wait for the next version and spend a few hundred > dollars to buy it, why wouldn't you be willing to spend that money hiring > someone to fix the bugs for you right away? I didn't pay anything to upgrade my MINIX to the next official version. The patches were free. Another non-problem, I think. > If there were more software that anyone could support there would probably > be more people providing the support, and market forces would drive the > prices down to affordable levels. Yup. I think $180 for a UNIX-like OS, with sources, which runs on four or five different hardware platforms is quite a bargain, and I appreciate the good job which market forces have done bringing it down to that level. Of course, not all commercial software is distributed in as 'nice' a way as MINIX. So perhaps we should be looking at distributing commercial software 'nicely' rather than throwing away the whole idea of commercial distribution. mathew -- Another would-be Mac owner put off by Apple's monopolistic practices.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,b96b391a5a05c5ec X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-11-11 11:16:44 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!zeus.ieee.org!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!mcsun!uknet!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Copyleft Message-ID: <28B0aB23w164w@mantis.co.uk> Date: 11 Nov 91 17:10:24 GMT References: <khmpbeINN421@early-bird.think.com> Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. Lines: 55