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Article #73032Re: A/UX comments wanted
From: John Coolidge
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1991 22:57
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1991 22:57
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sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes: >In article <21059@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes: >>Terrorists murder people. They do it very messily. Arms, legs, heads, >>intestines, part company from each other and fly all over the street. >>I'm not aware that Apple Computer does this sort of thing. Grow up. >Grow up. Terrorists cause terror. That's why they're called "terrorists." >You've heard of "ecoterrorists," I assume? Guess what: they don't kill >people (except indirectly or accidently). "Legal terrorists" don't kill >people, either (except indirectly or accidently): they just cause terror >through legal means. Such as threatening to sue anyone they can. Avoiding the thorny politics of ecoterrorism, the point here is apparently that anyone who uses the legal system as a means to protect their rights is a "Legal Terrorist". Fine, I can deal with that particular twisting of the language (I like a good Humpty-Dumpty-ism as much as the next guy). Just make sure you lump IBM, HP, DEC, Atari, NeXT, MIT, AT&T, and, yes, our good friends the FSF, into the category of legal terrorists, since all of them threaten to sue you if you violate some of their rights. You might want to remove Apple, though; they certainly don't seem to be threating to sue anyone they can (two companies out of at least a dozen potential targets doesn't seem like "anyone they can" to me...). Of course, they may or may not have those rights; it is, in general, difficult to tell if they do until a test case is filed. Do you believe that you should only sue in cases where the law is clear and well defined? That attitude would make the product-liability cases in the early '80's, the consumer-protection cases in the 60's and 70's, and most of negligence law from this century into acts of "Legal Terrorism"; those rights weren't even as defined as user-interface copyright (instead of a vacuum, the law specifically disallowed recovery in these cases) at the time the courts reversed themselves. Roe v. Wade was, of course, an example of Roe "terrorizing' the legal system, as were Gideon v. Wainright, Brown v. Board of Education, etc. --John -------------------------------------------------------------------------- John L. Coolidge Internet:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP:uiucdcs!coolidge Of course I don't speak for the U of I (or anyone else except myself) Copyright 1991 John L. Coolidge. Copying allowed if (and only if) attributed. You may redistribute this article if and only if your recipients may as well.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,6535890f8096f45d X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-11-07 15:24:30 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!zeus.ieee.org!sdd.hp.com!wupost!m.cs.uiuc.edu!coolidge From: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: A/UX comments wanted Keywords: a/ux,apple,macintosh Message-ID: <1991Nov7.225753.19120@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 7 Nov 91 22:57:53 GMT References: <haney.688605042@moonshine> <247@kas.helios.mn.org> <21059@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> <1991Nov07.021047.13594@kithrup.COM> Sender: news@m.cs.uiuc.edu (News Database (admin-Mike Schwager)) Reply-To: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Lines: 43