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Article #73040Re: LPF boycott of Apple (comments & quotes from RMS interview)
From: Amanda Walker
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1991 12:13
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1991 12:13
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nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes: We're trying to make applications on Unix friendly enough and consistant enough that Unix doesn't lose the commercial market. Sometimes I'm not even sure it's worth the effort. Me neither. I've been a UNIX geek for 10 years, with a sworn aversion to Intel processors and anything resembling MS-DOS, but at the moment I think that Windows/NT is likely to send the budding commercial desktop UNIX market down in flames. I've ordered my 486 box... Even diehard UNIX shops like AT&T USL seems to be starting to acquire the attitude that UNIX will lose the desktop and the display, and end up being relegated to server machines. Some (many?) of you may not give a damn. There certainly doesn't seem to be much effort in this direction in GNU software. Indeed. Even Cygnus is evidently making most of their money off of using GCC for embedded applications, rather than making any headway in the compiler market overall. GCC is a truly wonderful thing, but it's missing a lot of things that separate a "program" from a "product". Sun's unbundled C compiler may generate worse code that GCC 2.0, but it's a better product, and I can use it now. This can make it worth the money and lack of source code... [...] creeping featurism. In case you were wondering, that kind of thing doesn't cut it in the real world. Hell, we've had a number of customers who have asked us to take features *out* of our email product - things like hierarchical folders are just too complicated for them to deal with. Visix has had the same experience with most of our customers. People don't want an option for every possible kind of behavior--they want simple, specialized software tools. You know, like UNIX was designed to support :). Because of customer demand, we've actually had to design a way to remove parts of our products and make them less functional... Strange, but true. Okay. Prepare a 30 page slide presentation with mixed graphics and text, your company logo and a standard slide background. That took me about 6 hours, including writing the talk. For extra credit, do it with software you've never used before, and for which you have no manual or online help handy. You can do it on a Mac or (mostly :)) on a PC running Windows. You can't do it on a UNIX box, unless you're using ports of Mac/Windows software... You don't win this game by being right, or being fast, or being technologically advanced (that should all be pretty clear already - we are talking Unix after all), you win *this* game by being cheap and easy. And Unix isn't either. Bingo. Amanda Walker amanda@visix.com Visix Software Inc. ...!uunet!visix!amanda -- "The map is not the territory." --Alan E. van Vogt
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,8da4c16bb61bb98b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-11-08 07:44:39 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!zeus.ieee.org!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!visix!news From: amanda@visix.com (Amanda Walker) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: LPF boycott of Apple (comments & quotes from RMS interview) Message-ID: <1991Nov8.121325.1890@visix.com> Date: 8 Nov 91 12:13:25 GMT References: <1991Nov1.000617.15311@cs.umn.edu> <1991Nov01.145916.6481@donau.et.tudelft.nl> <1991Nov4.052817.14034@wpi.WPI.EDU> <1991Nov4.221237.914@alphalpha.com> Sender: news@visix.com Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA Lines: 60