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Article #73139Re: LPF boycott of Apple (comments & quotes from RMS interview)
From: Lawrence C. Foard
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1991 05:28
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1991 05:28
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In article <1991Nov01.145916.6481@donau.et.tudelft.nl> thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Thomas Okken) writes: >> Baloney, there have been UI's as long as there have been computers. Every >> computer language and OS is a UI. Apple did not even develop the GUI. The >> most that can be claimed for Apple is that they popularized one particular >> GUI which seems to be dumbed down to about the right level for a large >> market. >Sure, every OS has a user interface. What the Mac introduced is a >*standardized* user interface, where all applications share a similar look >and feel. That look and feel is imposed by the Mac OS and ToolBox, and Apple's >Human Interface Guidelines. I think the utility of this is badly over blown. I don't expect the controls for a database and text editor to be any more similar than the controls for a car and a jet plane. >If you want to compare that to the mess in the DOS and UNIX worlds, where >every utility uses a different command-switch syntax, and every interactive >program uses different control/escape sequences - fine! Unix command line arguments are generally very consistant. But to much conformity is a bad thing, sometimes you have to give up ease of learning for long term ease of use. >But don't pretend >you know what is meant by the term UI these days. I don't care how Apple defines it. >> But before Apple, no one ever thought that a UI was protectable by any >> means. They weren't "intellectual property" of any sort. > >Of course not, because there was nothing to protect. See above. Give me a break. Race an experienced Mac user Vs and experienced unix user given a certain task and see who wins. If I'm going to use a system for 1000's of hours, taking a few days to learn new things is not a big deal. I recently watched a grad student pulling his hair out when he reached the limits of the Mac program he was using, he kept wishing he had used Latex, if he had used Latex it would have taken a while to learn, but would have saved weeks in the end. -- Disclaimer: Opinions are based on logic rather than biblical "fact". ------ Hackers do it for fun. | First they came for the drug users, I said \ / "Profesionals" do it for money. | nothing, then they came for hackers, \ / Managers have others do it for them. | I said nothing... STOP W.O.D. \/
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,8da4c16bb61bb98b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-11-04 04:23:06 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!zeus.ieee.org!sdd.hp.com!wupost!uwm.edu!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!garbo.ucc.umass.edu!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!wintermute!entropy From: entropy@wintermute.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: LPF boycott of Apple (comments & quotes from RMS interview) Message-ID: <1991Nov4.052817.14034@wpi.WPI.EDU> Date: 4 Nov 91 05:28:17 GMT References: <1991Nov1.000617.15311@cs.umn.edu> <1991Nov01.145916.6481@donau.et.tudelft.nl> Sender: news@wpi.WPI.EDU (News) Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: wintermute.wpi.edu