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Article #73477Re: Patents
From: Dan Bernstein
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1991 06:45
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1991 06:45
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In article <1991Sep11.183031.850@franklin.com> jesse@franklin.com (Jesse Perry) writes: > What he actually argued was that it would be silly to patent > an entire program, because such a patent would afford no > protection to its inventor. This is because people could > change non-essential aspects of the program to create a new > program with the same basic function, but without infringing > the patent. Sorry, but you're wrong. The LZW patent covers every aspect of, e.g., the ``compress'' program, including the output. It doesn't go into detail on the methods of output, but there's no reason that it can't. Claim 666: ``In the compression and decompression system of claim 1, any method of providing the code signals using a standard input-output library.'' Remember that patents often consist of tens or hundreds of claims. > Therefore it would be useless to > patent compress(1), because people could write equivalent > LZW-based compression programs without stdio, which a patent > on compress(1) would not cover. Your error (well, really Zippy's error) is in assuming that compress-without-stdio won't infringe on a patent just because the patent covers compress-with-stdio. Any program which works like compress will infringe claim 1, whether or not it infringes claim 666 (or any actual claim in the patent). > Dan> United States Patent 338029 covers not only software but > Dan> an entire algorithm. It is clearly worded to cover that > Dan> algorithm. It was granted in 1968. > Is that number right? Seems like maybe it needs another > digit. Whoops. That should be 3380029. Thanks. ---Dan
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,9434f7b17f215464 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-09-14 15:07:50 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!hsdndev!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Patents Message-ID: <22248.Sep1406.45.4891@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 14 Sep 91 06:45:48 GMT References: <9302@cactus.org> <27542.Sep1006.12.2591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <1991Sep11.183031.850@franklin.com> Organization: IR Lines: 37