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Article #73479Re: Patents
From: Dan Bernstein
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1991 20:27
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1991 20:27
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In article <1991Sep15.052225.9619@franklin.com> jesse@franklin.com (Jesse Perry) writes: > That's because the LZW patent is *NOT* a patent on the > compress(1) program; it is instead a patent on a method *used by* > compress(1), and thus is a patent which covers compress(1), as > well as many other possible programs. This is why it is valuable. This is ridiculous. Yes, we are in violent agreement that a ``patent on the compress(1) program'' would be idiotic if it weren't phrased like the LZW patent. That's why, when normal people talk about patenting a program (like compress), they mean patenting any or all of the methods used in the program (like LZW). (This is exactly the wording used in, e.g., Anthony and Colwell's article on computer patents. As they say, you can copyright a program, you can keep it secret, or you can patent it.) Why you and Zippy persist in talking about a different meaning is beyond me. Zippy's original statement, namely that you can't (in practice) patent an entire program, is pointless at best and misleading at worst. Starting from a program (my yabba compressor, for instance), I could apply for a patent covering Y coding, the file formats, huptries, and everything else involved in that program. Zippy says such a patent is useless because he can just avoid *one* of the patent methods (the file formats, say) and he'll be safe. But that's wrong. If he uses *any* of the methods used by the original program, he'll infringe the patent. ---Dan
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,9434f7b17f215464 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-09-15 14:23:37 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!wupost!uwm.edu!ogicse!hsdndev!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Patents Message-ID: <300.Sep1520.27.0991@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 15 Sep 91 20:27:09 GMT References: <1991Sep11.183031.850@franklin.com> <22248.Sep1406.45.4891@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <1991Sep15.052225.9619@franklin.com> Organization: IR Lines: 26