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Article #73551Re: Ben Franklin on patents
From: Aydin Edguer
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1991 01:10
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1991 01:10
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In article <PCG.91Aug18210217@aberda.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes: >My favourite solution would be, instead of granting the inventor >esclusive *manufacturing* rights, granting him exclusive *royalty* >rights for say 10-20 years on the actual selling price of products >incorporating that invention, i.e. a kind of sales "tax", going to the >inventor. > >Everybody would be able to manufacture products incorporating any >invention, as long as they paid the royalty to the inventor. > >The royalty would be by default something like 3-5% (which is little for >a new product, where profit margins can be supposed to be something like >30-50%, and a lot for mature products, where they can be supposed to be >around 5-10%), and the inventor could reduce (but not increase) it at >will. Huh?! How is this different from the current state of affairs? People use patented techniques all the time by paying for them. Ask most modem manufacturers about "+++"... that they pay a fee for. The argument is that with the growing numbers of software patents, giving away 3-5% for each patent, you will soon be making negative money. Let's see... I am writing a spreadsheet that uses the X window system. I owe AT&T for my backing store and someone else for natural order recalculation. I decide to highlight the fields that need to be entered, so I owe IBM for the Data Entry Screen. I would also like to have distributed menus (yet more money to IBM) and to give the user the option to use a Lotus 1-2-3 like interface (money to yet another company). Well so far I have to give up 15-25% of my money, and those are just the patents (and copyrights) off the top of my head! This is wrong, bogus, hideous, awful, stupid. (choose your term) But I would rather not argue from an economic view. Steel companies, drug companies, car companies, all have to put up with this, and thanks to cross-licensing it works. The problem is that patents should not even be granted for computer software. The idea that a mathematical formula can be patented is IMHO wrong, even if the PTO is doing it currently. Aydin Edguer
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,9434f7b17f215464 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-08-18 21:21:38 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz!opal!fauern!ira.uka.de!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!charlie!edguer From: edguer@charlie.CES.CWRU.Edu (Aydin Edguer) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Ben Franklin on patents Message-ID: <1991Aug19.011004.21666@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Date: 19 Aug 91 01:10:04 GMT References: <48185@netnews.upenn.edu> <1991Aug14.153229.18561@alphalpha.com> <PCG.91Aug18210217@aberda.aber.ac.uk> Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University Lines: 49 Nntp-Posting-Host: charlie.ces.cwru.edu