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Article #73640Re: Richard Stallman's Most Obnoxious
From: Joseph Francis
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1991 09:46
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1991 09:46
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In article <1991Jul30.161612.10581@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> shore@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Melinda Shore) writes: >In article <9107300638.AA11696@wubios> david@wubios.wustl.edu (David J. Camp) writes: >>Do you know of any women that are offended with a comment like >>"bright-eyed and pretty?" Is it an attempt to dominate the recipient? > >Yes, yes. A comment like "bright-eyed and pretty" in a professional >context (are you an undergraduate, or what?) is wildly inappropriate ... >BTW, your definition of feminism is not widely accepted. > >>I find women very attractive. That I express it gives me no shame. > >At the extreme, this leads to sexual harrassment. Women are *not* in ... What should be understood here is that the comment had total relevance to the original intent of smug 'put-down' of the commentators. The rather ineffective justifications posed by David merely invalidate the original intent of the posting, so what are we left with? A bad taste in the mouth, and a dull brown contempt for Mr. Camp. If I were to shift the domain of discourse in a discussion of an article on, say, Djikstra, "And in the third picture we see a rather alarmingly hung and potbellied professor", the intent, though 'cutified' by the alliteration, is to shift context, and to cast aspersions on his professional qualities by commenting implicitly on his sexuality. ... "I find women very attractive. That I express it gives me no shame." ( 'Very attractive', which implies that you therefore find the alternative, men, merely attractive?) I would suggest that you try to avoid putting into articles therefore 'hot bitch' for extra-extra attractive women, and 'something I wouldn't throw out of bed for eating crackers' for the dream of a lifetime. In fact, I would suggest you not post articles at all until you really understand why what you do makes you appear cretinous, and offensive to an enormous number of people, many of whom, like me, are not 'politically correct'. -- | Le Jojo: Fresh 'n' Clean, speaking out to the way you want to live | today; American - All American; doing, a bit so, and even more so.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,6abc03471515819f X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-08-01 22:59:06 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!corton!ircam!francis From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Most Obnoxious Message-ID: <1991Aug1.094614.19654@ircam.fr> Date: 1 Aug 91 09:46:14 GMT References: <9107300305.AA15415@husc8> <9107300638.AA11696@wubios> <1991Jul30.161612.10581@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Distribution: gnu Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France) Lines: 45