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Article #73901Re: NJ wants to license programmers
From: Spencer Greene
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 05:37
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1991 05:37
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In article <46549@netnews.upenn.edu> yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) writes:
>What's the problem? Licensing merely mandates a minimum
>level of competency. Many other professions have licensing procedures
>for exactly that reason. Would you prefer to be treated by a doctor who
>did not have a license to practice medicine?
This is a common argument, and one which I might have gone for until
last year. I was swayed by a very compelling book, "More Like
Us," by Atlantic Monthly Asian correspondent James Fallows. It should
be required reading for policymakers, IMHO.
I can't do justice to his argument in one page, but here's my
quick summary:
o America is a great power because of social mobility, vs. the more rigid
class distinctions which brought down the feudal system and many
great powers before and since.
o Proponents of professional licensing always cite professionalism and
protection of the public as reasons why it is necessary. After-the-fact
studies have not shown quality to improve in "professions" which took
up licensing. He gives details -- read the book.
o The effect of licensing, which has been the same since the medieval
trade guilds and before, is to create barriers to entry to a craft,
thereby increasing the salary commanded by those accepted into the group.
Society loses in such a transaction (remember the dead-weight loss area
in the monopoly supply/demand curve from microeconomics).
o He cites various anecdotes and statistics which I don't have at hand:
state X has n hundred licensed "professions", including (some ridiculous
job) and (some ridiculous job). A PhD physicist can't teach a junior
high school science class (no certificate) even though the person
who is teaching the class knows nothing about science and is imparting
wrong information to the students. A paralegal is prosecuted for
helping people with gov't forms (this one was on 60 Minutes, I think).
Etc.
o He makes some distinction for life-critical professions like M.D.
Before comp.risks people cry "software *is* life-critical": Fallows
has much to say about the abuses of licensing even for MDs. Various
surveys show that doctors themselves don't think thousands of hours
of memorization followed by hundreds of weeks of sleepless nights in
residency are the best ways to make a good practitioner, etc. I think
he also talks about airline pilots: in order to have really *useful*
licensing, you'd have to follow their lead, with periodic competency
reviews, minimum flying-hours-per-year, etc., which is a very expensive
way to go.
o The way for America to succeed in world markets (here's the Asian
angle; apologies to readers outside the U.S.) is not to copy Japanese
or other styles, which wouldn't work here anyway, but for us to
be "more like us," i.e. to emphasize the values which were responsible
for American success in the 40s and 50s, including (especially) the
kind of social and professional mobility which worked for us then.
James Fallows, MORE LIKE US, Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1989.
$8.95 (list) in paperback, & well worth it.
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