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Article #73949FSF won't help Apple (Re: Newsgroups closed)
From: Andrew Mauer
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1991 19:06
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1991 19:06
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On 23 Jul 91 08:50:56 GMT, acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu (albert chin) said: albert> let's take another example. we all know that the FSF does not support albert> the Macintosh as a computer platform for GNU software. now, let's say i albert> want to port GNUsed to my Mac IIci. i also am aware that the FSF doesn't albert> care about my port (i.e. they will not support it). however, does this --------- albert> mean that they will refuse to help me if i am stuck in a certain routine? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. They have no wish to waste limited resources on something they do not care about. albert> if this is so, then the FSF does not believe in free software. what they albert> do believe in is 'free software' insofar as the goals of the FSF are albert> advanced. No. It means that they do not wish to spend their time fixing YOUR problem. This is a twisted example. The FSF gives out their source code. They engage in no practice to PREVENT or HINDER your attempts at porting things to your Macintosh. You are implying that your action of attempting to port some GNU software forces the FSF to help you. albert> there was a philosopher who said something to the effect, "i might not albert> believe what you believe but i'll defend to my death your right to albert> believe it". Yes, but this is not what you have said. When one person decides to cut off access to newsgroups to a larger number of people (even if they can get access elsewhere), it seems that this person is imposing his will in an unethical manner on the others. I would argue that access to newsgroups is not any sort of protected right, but rather a gift. Access is always avaliable dial-up, if it is desired strongly enough, so no one is being totally deprived of the ability to get news. Therefore, all that is happening is their access is being hindered, and in this hindering, perhaps they are being forced to think a little about issues they have not thought about. Yes, I have sympathy for those who cannot get their news, but I am not sure that it is a morally wrong action to cut them off as a statement of something one believes in. -- Andrew Mauer (andrewm@wpi.wpi.edu)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,87dfb568a60f029f X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-07-23 22:15:52 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!bu.edu!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!wpi!andrewm From: andrewm@pitt.WPI.EDU (Andrew Mauer) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: FSF won't help Apple (Re: Newsgroups closed) Message-ID: <ANDREWM.91Jul23140632@pitt.WPI.EDU> Date: 23 Jul 91 19:06:32 GMT References: <jim.679882044@piggy> <1991Jul19.152143.27791@wsrcc.com> <PLD.91Jul21175336@whopper.lcs.mit.edu> <288B3108.27C1@tct.com> <4159@kluge.fiu.edu> Sender: news@wpi.WPI.EDU (News) Distribution: gnu Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280 Lines: 54 In-Reply-To: acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu's message of 23 Jul 91 08: 50:56 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: pitt.wpi.edu