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Article #74275Imperfect Solutions (was Re: "Copyleft" music?)
From: Craig Burley
Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 16:48
Date: Thu, 30 May 1991 16:48
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I've seen a few postings about the software patent, interface copyright, and (now) music copyright issues that say something about a solution for these issues that would satisfy the FSF (sometimes called GNU, erroneously in this case I believe). I think these solutions aren't going to be satisfactory to the FSF. For example: In article <DRW.91May29002801@paley.mit.edu> drw@paley.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) writes: I'm not certain of the details, but the copyright rules for music are different than for other works. In particular, once you've published a piece of music, you can't prevent others from performing it -- you have to license it to all comers for a reasonable fee. (BMI and ASCAP handle collecting and distributing the license fees.) This is unlike other works, where copyright gives you complete control over who can and cannot use your work. Perhaps this is a workable solution to user interface copyrights -- unless you're a diehard Gnuist, the problem with user interface copyrights is not that they enable the inventor of an interface feature to make money off it, but rather that they enable him to prevent others from using the feature at all. If there were a similar compulsory licensing feature to interface copyrights, most of their problems would be solved. I can understand why it is tempting to believe such arrangements, whether in dealing with music, software copyright, software patents, and so on, will "solve" the "GNU problem". I think they won't for one simple reason: the raison d'etre of the FSF (of which Project GNU is its main thrust, but it's really a UN*X system, while the FSF is the organization that wants to write free software per se) is to produce code that people can freely copy for friends and neighbors, or charge for the distributions if they want. However the product (code) is not allowed to be "proprietized" by deriving something from it (which can be done by making trivial changes) then protecting the derivative via copyright. That way ports and such are still "free" by this definition (in the same sense we in the U.S. are "free" because slavery is not an option we are permitted to choose for ourselves -- whether this is true freedom is another issue, not solvable in the gnu forum). So any solution to these problems that says "enforce a maximum permitted license fee on software patents, interface copyrights, etc" must ALSO say "permit derived works to be placed under copyleft [i.e. freely redistributable but no in the public domain]" for the solution to be acceptable to FSFers like myself. That is not likely -- I mean, if they do this, then us FSFers can just pay the (low) fee once on any such item, then freely distribute the result -- because those interested in preserving such things want to make money off of every distribution. Oh, maybe an intermediate solution can be found, like "if placed under copyleft, any distributions made for any tangible form of remuneration ($$) must include the licensing fee to be sent to the owners of the licensed technology". That way, "free" distributions (like ftp) would remain free, but things like the FSF's tape distributions and other organizations (like Austin Code Works?) would be sending license fees in. Hmm, perhaps a reasonable intermediate solution, again unlikely, but I haven't thought about this much. -- James Craig Burley, Software Craftsperson burley@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e1fe941f9c1ff3f5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-31 03:34:18 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!mintaka!ai-lab!life!burley From: burley@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Craig Burley) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Imperfect Solutions (was Re: "Copyleft" music?) Message-ID: <BURLEY.91May30124800@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Date: 30 May 91 16:48:00 GMT References: <9105282114.AA01467@nmtvs313.mtvyp> <1991May28.235722.26629@cbfsb.att.com> <1991May29.012149.28681@cbfsb.att.com> <DRW.91May29002801@paley.mit.edu> Sender: news@ai.mit.edu Distribution: gnu Organization: Free Software Foundation 545 Tech Square Cambridge, MA 02139 Lines: 62 In-reply-to: drw@paley.mit.edu's message of 29 May 91 04:28:01 GMT