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Article #74317Re: "look and feel" monopoly incentives and MacOS and 1-2-3 origins
From: David Williams
Date: Fri, 17 May 1991 02:24
Date: Fri, 17 May 1991 02:24
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In article <1991May15.175231.1416@uvm.edu>, wollman@emily.uvm.edu (Garrett Wollman) writes: >In article <35210@athertn.Atherton.COM> dlw@Atherton.COM (David Williams) writes: >>As for all the anger from the FSF over Apple and look n feel where are the >>hoardes of graphical GNU tools of any form? Isn't emacs/epoch the ONLY tool >>which "runs" in a X Window? Why aren't all the GNU tools packaged with a >>graphical front end? If it isn't important to do it for FSF's own tools >>then why the uproar over tools on a platform that doesn't even have a need >>for Unix based tools? Unless A/UX is where one wants to put these. >Because a "graphical front end" to egrep makes little if no sense >whatsoever. Because the FSF have better things to do, like finishing >their free OS and C library. Because many of the people who use GNU >tools have no need or indeed desire for such a "graphical front end" Ah real men don't use GUI's! Boy did Saber C get it wrong with their product. " " NeXT " " with Workspace Manager and Interface Builder. " " SCO " " with Open Desktop. " " Hp " " with VUE and SoftBench. " " DEC " " with DEC Fuse. >and thus far no one has ever shown the inclination to write one. Gee its nice to know such things are unimportant...I guess I'll ring up Sun and Unix International, Hp and OSF and tell them to blow off Open Look and Motif as they are unimportant and *real* users don't need them. Hey I could call up MicroSoft and tell them to recall Windows 3.0 (3million copies sold), but of course thats merely a layer on DOS and therefore ignorable. Hmmm, I could call Apple and tell them that a Multifinder interface to A/UX is redundant as well...whoops I mentioned the "A" word and a "toy" machine. I suppose then one should just toss every other X client other than xterm. >Remember: the FSF is a corporate member of the LPF. The LPF opposes >Look&Feel on grounds of general principle, and the FSF tries to Ah, so they're opposed to GUI's just on general principle eh? ;) >support this in the best way they can. > By not providing a GUI for FSF products, I get it. ;) >-GAWollman David Williams "Gosh, and all these Hardware and Software vendors are just not getting it, I mean all this GUI work is just getting in the way of writing a free OS and compiler/library. Maybe if we sent a terminator back in time to Xerox and Apple none of this kind of stuff would be on the marketplace and everyone could be using vt100 based workstations."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,15ed716c9ecc1ded X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-18 12:08:01 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!olivea!apple!voder!pyramid!athertn!Atherton.COM!dlw From: dlw@Atherton.COM (David Williams) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: "look and feel" monopoly incentives and MacOS and 1-2-3 origins Message-ID: <35258@athertn.Atherton.COM> Date: 17 May 91 02:24:20 GMT References: <1991May15.175231.1416@uvm.edu> <1991May4.235033.15917@agate.berkeley.edu> <48451@ut-emx.uucp> <35210@athertn.Atherton.COM> Sender: news@athertn.Atherton.COM Reply-To: dlw@Atherton.COM (David Williams) Organization: Atherton Technology -- Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 55