🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: gnu.misc.discuss
Article #74363

Re: What about mac clones? (was Re: Illogic)

#74363
From: Chris Petrilli
Date: Sat, 11 May 1991 00:03
36 lines
2702 bytes
   Well, how many things can you name about any other micro product that
   weren't done by someone else earlier?  I would say that Apple has done
   better than most at getting innovations into common use.  Certainly they
   did an excellent job of turning the PARC desktop innovations into a
   smooth, integrated product.  I think the idea of the resource fork/data
   fork division of files is reasonably novel.  I think the organization of
   the operating system interface is reasonably innovative.  Innovation is
   a tricky word -- turning a concept into a product deserves a lot more
   credit than you seem to be willing to give it.  Just where do you see
   innovation in companies other than Apple, who presumably are operating
   on a business model you find preferable?

I see MUCH MUCH more innovation in NeXT than in all of Apple, and NeXT
only has 400 employees (I believe).  They operate on a system of free
information, much like the FSF.  In fact tehy have helped the FSF alot
by giving them Objective-C to distribute, and they have also placed
their NetInfo manager into the public archives.  I know for a fact
they even considered giving the FSF nextStep, and they probably are
still thinking about it.  

The problem with Apple is that they steal other people's ideas and
then try to claim tehy invented it.  Apple claimed they invented the
'desktop' metaphor, when in reality MIT invented it with the Lisp
Machines.  It's older than Jobs himself almost.

Strange that Jobs left Apple to do what he always wanted Apple to
do... be innovative on their own.

Chris


--
+ Chris Petrilli
| Internet:  petrilli@gnu.ai.mit.edu
+ Insert silly disclaimer drivel here.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <PETRILLI.91May10200326@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!fauern!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!ai-lab!life.ai.mit.edu!petrilli
References: <9104292009.AA01975@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <1991Apr30.011818.855@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Apr30.091117.2270@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, <1991May01.041835.11378@kithrup.COM> <Mc7fQb600VIK45479T@andrew.cmu.edu> <SBB.91May4133625@laplace.eng.sun.com> <PREEC

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,47b7044c222bdb12
X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-11 16:25:53 PST
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!fauern!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!ai-lab!life.ai.mit.edu!petrilli
From: petrilli@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: What about mac clones? (was Re: Illogic)
Message-ID: <PETRILLI.91May10200326@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
Date: 11 May 91 00:03:26 GMT
References: <9104292009.AA01975@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
 <1991Apr30.011818.855@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
 <1991Apr30.091117.2270@watdragon.waterloo.edu>,
 <1991May01.041835.11378@kithrup.COM>
 <Mc7fQb600VIK45479T@andrew.cmu.edu>
 <SBB.91May4133625@laplace.eng.sun.com>
 <PREEC
Sender: news@ai.mit.edu
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Free Software Foundation
Lines: 36
In-reply-to: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com's message of 9 May 91 15:22:54 GMT