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Article #74363Re: What about mac clones? (was Re: Illogic)
From: Chris Petrilli
Date: Sat, 11 May 1991 00:03
Date: Sat, 11 May 1991 00:03
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Well, how many things can you name about any other micro product that weren't done by someone else earlier? I would say that Apple has done better than most at getting innovations into common use. Certainly they did an excellent job of turning the PARC desktop innovations into a smooth, integrated product. I think the idea of the resource fork/data fork division of files is reasonably novel. I think the organization of the operating system interface is reasonably innovative. Innovation is a tricky word -- turning a concept into a product deserves a lot more credit than you seem to be willing to give it. Just where do you see innovation in companies other than Apple, who presumably are operating on a business model you find preferable? I see MUCH MUCH more innovation in NeXT than in all of Apple, and NeXT only has 400 employees (I believe). They operate on a system of free information, much like the FSF. In fact tehy have helped the FSF alot by giving them Objective-C to distribute, and they have also placed their NetInfo manager into the public archives. I know for a fact they even considered giving the FSF nextStep, and they probably are still thinking about it. The problem with Apple is that they steal other people's ideas and then try to claim tehy invented it. Apple claimed they invented the 'desktop' metaphor, when in reality MIT invented it with the Lisp Machines. It's older than Jobs himself almost. Strange that Jobs left Apple to do what he always wanted Apple to do... be innovative on their own. Chris -- + Chris Petrilli | Internet: petrilli@gnu.ai.mit.edu + Insert silly disclaimer drivel here.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,47b7044c222bdb12 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-11 16:25:53 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!fauern!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!ai-lab!life.ai.mit.edu!petrilli From: petrilli@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: What about mac clones? (was Re: Illogic) Message-ID: <PETRILLI.91May10200326@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Date: 11 May 91 00:03:26 GMT References: <9104292009.AA01975@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <1991Apr30.011818.855@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Apr30.091117.2270@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, <1991May01.041835.11378@kithrup.COM> <Mc7fQb600VIK45479T@andrew.cmu.edu> <SBB.91May4133625@laplace.eng.sun.com> <PREEC Sender: news@ai.mit.edu Distribution: gnu Organization: Free Software Foundation Lines: 36 In-reply-to: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com's message of 9 May 91 15:22:54 GMT