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Article #74762Re: Patents in general
From: Harald Hanche-Olsen
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1991 18:56
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1991 18:56
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In article <900@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> waters@nddsun1.sps.mot.com (Mike Waters) writes: } This is the type }of burden that would be placed upon programmers were software patents of }commonly used procedures to become widespread. Not possible because only inventions can be patented! Yes of course, but what is an invention? }If software is patentable, then why isn't mathematics? There is no }real distinction. Have you ever tried to fly an airplane with only a set of log tables in place of the controls? Software produces commercially useful results. So does mathematics. (This may come as a surprise to some people). In another article, abc@adm.brl.mil (Brinton Cooper) writes: >If software is patentable, then why isn't mathematics? There is no >real distinction. Isn't it true that mathematics is (was) thought to have always existed, much as the physical universe described by physics has "always existed" (or evolved)? I believe that mathematics was forbidden from patenting because it was thought that mathematics is "discovered" and not invented and that it was created by a Higher Being. I won't subscribe to the Higher Being theory, but I think your point is a fundamental one. You can't patent discoveries! What if Columbus had been able to patent America? (Of course the original inhabitants could probably have the patent overthrown by a claim of "prior art", but you get my drift). The sticky problem is where do the discoveries stop and the inventions start. As a mathematician I prove theorems. I believe those theorems were just as true before I proved them, hence I may call my proof a discovery. In a sense you could say I invented the techniques to be used in the proof, just like I might "invent" a whole new field of research. But since an inventor of a circuit, say, is constrained by physical laws in making his invention, you could call that invention a discovery: He has discovered a possibility allowed by the constraints. So where exactly is the dividing line between what is a discovery and what is an invention? Unless someone can come up with a real good, testable definition, maybe the discovery/invention dichotomy is not all that fruitful after all? - Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@imf.unit.no> Division of Mathematical Sciences The Norwegian Institute of Technology N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,b0a85d23901c1430 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-03-07 21:18:35 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!ugle.unit.no!hanche From: hanche@imf.unit.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Patents in general Message-ID: <HANCHE.91Mar7195643@hufsa.imf.unit.no> Date: 7 Mar 91 18:56:43 GMT References: <10565@scolex.sco.COM} <878@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> <4893@network.ucsd.edu> <900@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@ugle.unit.no Organization: The Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway. Lines: 52 In-Reply-To: waters@nddsun1.sps.mot.com's message of 6 Mar 91 17:09:08 GMT