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Article #74831Re: Is FSF software really free.
From: Dick Dunn
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 1991 20:14
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 1991 20:14
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carroll@cs.uiuc.edu (Alan M. Carroll) writes one of many flames in response to mclay@cme.nist.gov (Michael Mclay)... Mclay says... > > While I like many of the > > FSF products, I absolutely disagree with your distribution tactics. ...and goes on to detail why he thinks FSF's policies are counterproductive. Carroll replies: > [ Flame warning ] > I think you're confused. First off, the FSF and RMS don't owe > _anything_ to _anyone_... I know you're confused. First off, Mclay didn't say that either the FSF or RMS owed him anything. >...They have no obligation whatsoever to provide > any software to anyone for any reason... ...nor did he say they did. You're creating a straw man. >...If the FSF is willing to accept > reduced distribution in order to enforce certain rules on use of their > code, that's their decision to make... Their prerogative wasn't questioned. Mclay was simply trying to make the point that *in his view* FSF's policies are counterproductive. This is the same point that many other people have tried to make. The point is under- stood by some FSF folks--notably Stallman, who says something to the effect of "yes, I see what you're saying, but I'm placing this particular principle at the top of my list." But it gets drowned out by FSF zealot- advocates who must close their ears and shout that there's nothing wrong. They just can't seem to believe that FSF is--BY CHOICE--not placing itself in the mainstream of free-software efforts. It doesn't bother me that the FSF takes a more radical position--it isn't the choice I'd make, yet there are reasons for it. But I'm fed up with the strident Defenders of the Faith behaving like they've got a monopoly on truth and right. Every time you shout down someone who questions you, you risk creating another opponent to free software. -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com -or- ico!rcd Boulder, CO (303)449-2870 ...Mr. Natural says, "Use the right tool for the job."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,86107c5566b0cc75 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: fbf1a,c16bc7e39e6c1f0f X-Google-Attributes: gidfbf1a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-01-31 19:56:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!mintaka!spdcc!ima!dirtydog!ico!rcd From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,alt.flame Subject: Re: Is FSF software really free. Summary: why so many closed minds? Message-ID: <1991Jan28.201457.17306@ico.isc.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:14:57 GMT References: <1918@fornax.UUCP> <9101161300.AA22325@zardoz.coral.com> <1991Jan27.182209.21983@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO Lines: 43 Posted: Mon Jan 28 14:14:57 1991