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Article #75261Re: Bruce Karsh
From: Scott E. Preece
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 1990 21:47
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 1990 21:47
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| From: Garrett.Wollman@f107.n325.z1.fidonet.org | Does anyone here get the impression that Bruce Karsh is completely missing | the point? | He complains that people are trying to take his "rights" away from him, | using typical right-wing-style bombast, while everyone else has been trying | to tell him that those "rights" never existed in the first place.... --- Oh, now you're way off base. In fact, the courts seem to be saying exactly that we DO have those rights; the people arguing against Karsh are generally saying that we SHOULDN'T have those rights, not that we DON'T, 'cause the courts are, ultimately, the only bodies that can say whether we do or don't. As to who's right wing and who isn't, I don't think you have a reasonable hook for either characterization here. There are many people who would be considered left wing by any reasonable standard who strongly advocate the right of creative people to control the things they create. The artists, for instance, who have fought for their right to control the display and alteration of their works of art, even against the wishes of the owners of the physical piece, would hardly be your canonical John Birch Society candidate. Now I, personally, believe that there's nothing especially innovative about the 1-2-3 interface and that it would be "better" for society if those who wanted to innovate in other, interesting areas of information management could use it as their core interface and then do interesting things around it, since otherwise their innovate work can only be evaluated by those who first learn their (pointlessly) innovative core interface. This makes it very hard to do fair evaluations (you're changing two factors at once, rather than one). BUT, I would also have to say that Lotus should, indeed, have the right to copyright their exact sequence of commands in menus, if they choose to do so. In a rational world it would just mean that people would migrate to another tool, that didn't protect its interface and allowed people to build on top of it, because that platform offered the best long-term potential for superior evolution. If I read a novel and think, when I'm done, "Hey, this book would have been a real winner if only the last chapter had ended a little differently:..." I am not allowed to innovate by reprinting the book with a different last chapter, though I could write an entire new book with a similar plot as a base for my improved ending or could publish just the new last chapter and say "Read the original book and then read this last chapter instead of the one it was published with." Let's get a little real here -- most of the 1-2-3 clones weren't written because the creators had some innovation to try and wanted a standard base for users to stand on as they tried out the innovation; they were written because the creators saw a market and figured they could grab a piece of it by selling at a lower price. I don't think they especially deserve haloes for that or to be cannonized as martyrs if the courts slap their fingers. -- scott preece motorola/mcd urbana design center 1101 e. university, urbana, il 61801 uucp: uunet!uiucuxc!udc!preece, arpa: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,8b793f3e1c8573e9 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1990-09-06 14:47:31 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!mcdphx!udc!etude!preece From: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Bruce Karsh Message-ID: <PREECE.90Sep6174731@etude.urbana.mcd.mot.com> Date: 6 Sep 90 21:47:31 GMT References: <1641@uvm-gen.UUCP> Sender: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com Organization: Motorola MCD, Urbana Design Center Lines: 58 Posted: Thu Sep 6 22:47:31 1990 In-reply-to: Garrett.Wollman@f107.n325.z1.fidonet.org's message of 4 Sep 90 17:36:59 GMT