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Article #75352Re: Patents (was Re: Copyrights)
From: 2656-Daniel R. Levy(0000000)0000
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 05:11
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 05:11
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karsh@trifolium.esd.sgi.com (Bruce Karsh) writes: >In article <38007@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> jbuck@galileo.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) writes: >There are a lot of DSP algorithms which are currently being kept very >secret. Companies which depend on the competitive advantage that these >proprietary techniques give them are keeping them trade secrets because >they don't believe that patents are yet a secure enough protection. Well, what practical addition to software patents would you propose to make them secure "enough"? An author of software currently doesn't have to reveal what method he is using internally. He can also disallow disassembly and reverse engineering in the license for the software. In view of this, what's secure "enough"? Requiring all software authors to publish their internal methods so that algorithm patent holders can examine them? >Simultaneous discovery does occur, >but it's just not that common. The existence of trade secrets is another >reason to believe that your statement is simply false. No, the fact that companies hold certain information that they have discovered as a trade secret says nothing about whether these "secrets" are in truth widely reinvented. It just says that the companies holding these "secrets" _hope_ they are not widely reinvented. The Emperors may be guarding mostly empty wardrobes for all we, not being omniscient, can tell. Have there been any cross-industry surveys to determine the similarity or diversity of "trade secrets" across companies? Somebody mentioned the difficulties to small companies because patent searches are so difficult and innovation (at least in the mind of the developer) is so common in the software art. I believe that this objection deserves serious consideration. I would propose that if algorithm patents MUST be upheld, the U.S. Patent Office should establish a special index for them so they will be easy to find. Also, the text of these patents should be made easily available in electronically-readable form. -- * Daniel R. Levy * uunet!tellab5!mtcchi!levy * Disclaimer: MTC may not agree * So far as I can remember, there is not one | ... therefore be ye as shrewd word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.| as serpents <Gen. 3> and harm- -- Bertrand Russell [Berkeley UNIX fortune] | less as doves -- JC [Mt. 10:16]
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,a3783b857baac617 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1990-08-14 15:05:31 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!decwrl!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!midway!linac!tellab5!mtcchi!levy From: levy@mtcchi.uucp (2656-Daniel R. Levy(0000000)0000) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Patents (was Re: Copyrights) Message-ID: <1990Aug14.051149.9242@mtcchi.uucp> Date: 14 Aug 90 05:11:49 GMT References: <38006@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <9008061955.AA14545@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> <38007@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <66707@sgi.sgi.com> Organization: Memorex Telex Corporation NSBG/STP Lines: 41 Posted: Tue Aug 14 06:11:49 1990