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Article #75395Re: Restricting the flow of GNU sw
From: Simon E Spero
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 1990 13:28
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 1990 13:28
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In article <JIM.90Aug8122529@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes: This is unrealistic and wholly impractical. Not even mostly impractical? :-) [ good critique of degenerate scenario deleted ] whoever connected directly to them. At present, that would mean 10 sites getting annual news/mail bills of 25,000 pounds or so. Who'd want to pay that kind of money? How many sites would want to have a direct connection to UKC if that was what it would cost them? Of And here you hit the nail squarely on the foot. That is precisely the problem I was trying to get around in my proposal. The cost @ ukc would be inversely proportional to the number of sites taking a direct subscription. When I made the suggestion what I was thinking of was more along the lines of most big (academic/commercial) sites keeping their subscriptions, whilst allowing small sites (personal and startups) to organise co-operative sharing. Maybe there could be another class of subscribtion for ukc- sites allowed to redistribute news to non ukc-sites. This could tend towards the formation of a more flexible backbone (in invertibrated commas). This more flexible structure be course, as direct UKC feeds drop off, the costs for the remaining feeds increase, the network topology deteriorates and the connectivity is diminished. Billing topology need not reflect physical topology. An upstream site could insist that all it's clients obtained ukc subscriptions- a situation identical to the present. What I was trying to get across was a more gradualist situation than the case you chose. The ultimate aim of UKNET is to feed the largest number of sites for the least of money and hassle. Thus far the net done brilliant- but the present structure is not set up to deal with the small site. After all, flat rate charges haven't been to popular in Strathclyde to date, have they? :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ zmacx07@uk.ac.ic.doc | sispero@cix.co.uk | ..!mcsun!ukc!slxsys!cix!sispero ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Poll Tax. | Saddam Hussein runs Lotus 123 on | DoC,IC,London SW7 2BZ I'm Not. Are you?| Apple Macs. | Keep your lawyers off of my computer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107654,5bf5f0b860603556 X-Google-Attributes: gid107654,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,92e6b24b18981845 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1990-08-11 06:13:48 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!zmacx07 From: zmacx07@doc.ic.ac.uk (Simon E Spero) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,uk.news Subject: Re: Restricting the flow of GNU sw Message-ID: <ZMACX07.90Aug10142815@tcsun2.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 10 Aug 90 13:28:15 GMT References: <PCG.90Aug3150143@odin.cs.aber.ac.uk> <JIM.90Aug6133650@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> <2164@gould.doc.ic.ac.uk> <JIM.90Aug8122529@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> Sender: news@doc.ic.ac.uk Organization: The Society of the Department of Computing, Imperial College Lines: 44 Posted: Fri Aug 10 14:28:15 1990 In-reply-to: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk's message of 8 Aug 90 11:25:29 GMT