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Article #75786Re: Re^2: Free Software Users == dupes ?
From: David Detlefs
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 1990 15:02
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 1990 15:02
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Many people on the pro-FSF side of this discussion seem to be saying that if one believes GNU libraries, such as G++, should be usable without legal encumbrance, then one is just a wrong-headed software hoarder. I think this is perhaps too strong a stance. In my own view, the the libg++ policy sacrifices long-term goals of the FSF in favor of a short-term moralistic stance. I believe that the long term goals of the FSF are best served by targeting specific well-understoood software tools, and producing extremely high-quality free replacements. This tools will be at least equal with commercial competition in terms of quality, and immeasurably superior in terms of price. Thus, the targetted products will be removed from the arena of competition, allowing software producers to get on to the serious business of actually advancing the state of the art. I think this strategy has is working marvelously for editors, and may yet work well for C compilers. I think the libg++ policy will prevent this strategy from working with C++ compilers. Though it is of course technically possible to use G++ without libg++, in practical terms you can't have one without the other. Given the existence of competition from, for example, AT&T, the benefits of libg++ aren't going to convince any commercial enterprise to chuck the concept of software ownership. Instead, they're going to by AT&T 2.0. Thus, the libg++ policy helps to keep commercial enterprises selling proprietary versions of software available from the FSF in business. Is this worth the moral purity of the policy? Well, I am not a free software zealot, or a zealot of any kind -- in fact, I kind of think Bush is doing the right thing regarding Lithuania. Maybe I should get some more zeal about some things. My point here, though, is that the point is nowhere as cut-and-dried as poeple are making it out to be. In fact, in private communciations Doug Lea has admitted to some mixed feelings about the current policy. For what it's worth... -- Dave Detlefs Any correlation between my employer's opinion Carnegie-Mellon CS and my own is statistical rather than causal, dld@cs.cmu.edu except in those cases where I have helped to form my employer's opinion. (Null disclaimer.)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,1a1f932bc12166f3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1990-03-30 07:02:02 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cica!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!pt!dld From: dld@F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (David Detlefs) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Re^2: Free Software Users == dupes ? Message-ID: <DLD.90Mar30100202@F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU> Date: 30 Mar 90 15:02:02 GMT References: <2449@sunset.MATH.UCLA.EDU> <970010@gore.com> <NELSON.90Mar27220308@image.clarkson.edu> <1990Mar28.045234.27003@brutus.cs.uiuc.edu> <140@pyrmania.oz> Distribution: gnu Organization: CMU CS Department Lines: 39 Posted: Fri Mar 30 16:02:02 1990 In-reply-to: major@pyrmania.oz's message of 30 Mar 90 05:06:34 GMT