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Article #72510Re: An attempt (probably in vain)
From: Kee Hinckley
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 18:50
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 18:50
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In article <MIB.92Jan21181133@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell) writes: >What I mean is this. If software is not excellent, then its producers >won't get any money. Nobody will shell out donations; nobody will pay >money hoping to get more software in the future. Only excellent >software will get money. With a market, instead, you get money >proportional to your excellence. In the current state of affairs, >that gives a lot af dismal programmers a lot of money. You have a rather strange concept of software. Software has features. Some programs have a certain set of features, others have another set. For instance I use FullWrite Professional on my Mac. The program is rather buggy, but it has a very nice interface which makes it worthwhile. When I'm doing complex stuff I switch to Word. If I'm doing really complex stuff I switch to a desktop publishing system. None of those pieces of software are "excellent" in that none of them does everything. But I don't particularly want a piece of software that does everything. Emacs tries to do that and it's very slow and large compared to it's competition. It also takes a lot more keystrokes to perform common operations. For quick things I use vi, for complex things I use emacs. Is either program excellent? No, but they both are pretty good at performing certain tasks. Furthermore the description you give above is no different than what we have now. If a piece of software is abysmal then the company doesn't get paid for it and goes out of business. Whether they are paid in contributions, support contracts or for binaries doesn't really matter. In fact you could make an argument that making money only on support would perpetuate bad software :-). I'm not saying that you can't make money doing GPL'd software, I just don't see that doing it will have any substantial influence on the quality of available software. The only thing that does that is a combination of market pressure and quality programmers. You aren't changing the market pressure substantially. >I don't care whether it's hardware people or not who pay the money. >That is a growing source of income for free software. If that makes >it work, then why insist that "customers" pay the money? They do >anyway, just indirectly. It matters because hardware companies rarely pay for end-user software. They pay for development tools and, increasingly, for basic system interface tools like desktops. But they aren't going to go out there and finance every single end-user application that exists. They'll help them of course, since it helps their platform. But the more specific the app gets, the less they can afford it, since it would only be used by a small segment of their customers. It's that logic that has led Sun to decouple their compilers from the standard release. Now if you don't give a damn about end-user software, then fine. I do. -- Alfalfa Software, Inc. | Poste: The EMail for Unix nazgul@alfalfa.com | Send Anything... Anywhere 617/497-2922 | info@alfalfa.com I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e7ab4faaac0aba9b X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-01-29 02:19:23 PST Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!yale!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Subject: Re: An attempt (probably in vain) Message-ID: <1992Jan28.185026.1530@alphalpha.com> Organization: asi References: <MIB.92Jan14193341@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <7sLLeB3w164w@mantis.co.uk> <MIB.92Jan16160732@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <1992Jan18.070335.26058@alphalpha.com> <MIB.92Jan21181133@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 92 18:50:26 GMT