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Re: Paul Martin the hypocrit

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From: Defender of Enormous Manhood
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:00
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No, Judges do not make law, they just ensure that existing legislation
does not break the highest law in the land - the Constitution. If it
does, then they have the power to strike it down.

Example, a government uses legislation to execute people named Jack,
and begins executing people named Jack, legally. Then it goes to the
supreme court and they determine that this law conflicts with rights
imposed under the charter of rights, so they strike the law down, and
they can't execute people named Jack anymore.

However if the constitution said Jacks are excluded, they could still
kill you, because there is nothing the almighty, un-elected  judges
could do to over-ride the constitution.

However there is something any government can do to overide the
constitution, invoke the notwithstanding clause. So as you see the
ultimate power is not with the courts, nor the constitution, but with
any immoral or corrupt government of the day.

This is why we need to ammend the constitution so it can't be perverted
by a seasonal government. It's about the only good idea Martin has had
all campaign.
And it may just be the hardest part to change, as if you already have
power, are you going to allow a situation where a constitution could
overide your power?
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From: "Defender of Enormous Manhood" <Defenderofenormousmanhood@rogers.com>
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Subject: Re: Paul Martin the hypocrit
Date: 14 Jan 2006 15:00:00 -0800
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