Article View: hfx.general
Article #1616Re: Pilots charged in friendly fire incident
From: Magix
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:40
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:40
58 lines
3606 bytes
3606 bytes
"George" <gpublicover@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ee102bf7.0209170842.e695784@posting.google.com... > I disagree with the decision to lay criminal charges in the friendly > fire incident. A military court martial, yes...civilian criminal > court...no way. Why? People died. Someone is accountable. The Canadian Military isn't allowed to try cases such as these and the American Military has continually shown it's inability to operate in a manner that follows it's own code of conduct on a regular basis. I would doubt that a civilian court would have any > jurisdiction anyway. In Canada, Military murder and rape charges have to be run through civilian courts. Civilian court always takes precedence over Military. What these pilots did was tragic, but not > criminal. Yes it was criminal. They violated their standing orders as well as their rules of engagement. These actions resulted in the deaths of 4 people. We should not hold soldiers criminally responsible for > battlefield activities... Yes you should. That's why we have the Geneva Convention Articles. You're not suggesting soldiers who machine gun thousands of civilians into trenches shouldn't be held accountable? military courts have been setup for such > reasons. No they are not. They are there to preserve the good order and conduct of it's members within the confines of the Miltary's goverment approved operational taskings. It seems that the pilots did not follow proper procedures and > they will be punished...this was yet another incident in an > environment of recklessness which seems to run rampant through the US > military as they continue to kill more of their own troops than do the > enemy. Which is exactly why we try these people. If we do not, there is no basis on which to form a deterrent from someone going 'Rambo' in an F-18 over a fly zone. As Canadians we should put our efforts behind the creation of a solution that will reduce the chances of this from occurring again. Secondly, we should treat those being charged with the dignity and respect servicemen deserve, and hold them accountable for their personal actions. Above all, we should remind ourselves that in a civilian court you are innocent until proven guilty. It is NOT the same in a military court. Magix
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<jGKh9.50186$561.6584@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!news03.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mailReferences:
<ee102bf7.0209170842.e695784@posting.google.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7b9c,b8ee99081c35553e X-Google-Attributes: gidf7b9c,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,b8ee99081c35553e X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: fbdd9,b8ee99081c35553e X-Google-Attributes: gidfbdd9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-17 11:40:17 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!news03.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Magix" <reply_to_me@rogers.com> Newsgroups: hfx.general,ns.general,chi.general References: <ee102bf7.0209170842.e695784@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Pilots charged in friendly fire incident Lines: 60 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: <jGKh9.50186$561.6584@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:40:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.231.20.133 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1032288015 24.231.20.133 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:40:15 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:40:15 EDT