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Article #531Re: John Paul II dead
From: Ivan Gowch
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:31
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:31
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:29:48 GMT, Mountain Goat <rmgoatNO@SPAMshaw.ca> wrote: [snip] IG: ==>> Fortunately, genies are not easily forced back into ==>> bottles and, with the long-overdue death of the ==>> hyper-conservative, woman-hating jerkoff in the ==>> Vatican known as John Paul, there is a window ==>> of opportunity for the Catholic church to start to ==>> make amends for its centuries of criminality by ==>> finally recognizing women as full-fledged human ==>> beings. ==>OK Ivan the pope had a blind spot about women. There are other issues ==>where he could have made changes, like marriage for priests, where ==>there is no doctrinal reason not to do it. However I think you are way ==>over the top here in equating him with a true misogynist like ==>SunDunce. Why? Here was a guy who rejected all sexual contact with women (both for himself and his male employees) and spent his life surrounded by men; a guy who strongly reaffirmed the inferior status of women in the cult he ran (although there never was a real theological reason to do so) and perpetuated the cult's brutal prohibition against birth control that, although senseless, ensured that millions of women the world over procreated themselves into miserable poverty, both for themselves and their children. His tireless battle against condom use helped spread AIDS across Africa, and was a crime against humanity. If these are not evidence of a bone-deep misogyny, M.G., I'm at a loss to imagine what might be. Fuck the Pope. If there does, indeed, turn out to be a hell, he's in it. As for Lauzon, he's just nuts. -- The danger to the life and well-being of children increases in direct proportion to their proximity to religion and its practitioners. -Ivan Gowch
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