🚀 go-pugleaf

> Shiny new roundabout; the guy that came up with that idea should be shot 
> and
> pissed on. They have been popping up all over the place.
>
> Even the Kippers, who invented them, don't build them anymore because they
> don't work; which is why the Kippers invented them in the first place. The
> old adage; buy Kipper or buy something that works.


Who said they don't work?

** They don't.  They slow traffic rather than smooth the flow

Why do they not work?

** Because they are in efficient.  The slow traffic rather than increase the 
flow.

What do you advocate that is better than a roundabout??

** Traffic lights (vastly cheaper and just as efficient) or parklos; worked 
great when they replaced the MicMac Rotary.

A circle is a much more efficient handler of traffic than a set of
lights... who wants ot sit at a red watching cars all go through...
but the whole concept should be pretty simple... yield to the traffic
in the center, and put some boot in to it and get the hell in the
cirlcle, and off when you want...

*** Not efficient at all.  And, in Nova Scotia where people have difficulty 
with a regular old merge, they are a recipe for a good set of accidents; 
especially if traffic volumes are high.  Most of them here are too small to 
be efficient.

You can't use them, don't make the rest of us sit at a red because you
can't drive.

*** I can use them just fine.  However, they are a stupid idea at best and 
an expensive waste of money at worst.

Maybe you're used to traffic circles, where the center yields to
incoming traffic -- THAT does not work.

*** I don't believe I have seen one of those for years; not since I saw them 
in France.