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Re: John Paul II dead

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From: SunDancer
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:02
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...so you are saying condoms has stopped AIDS in it's tracks 
and celibacy hasn't?

Zoloft wrote:
> The most outrageous statement I ever heard anyone make, let alone a "man 
> of the cloth" make, was on a documentary about HIV/AIDS in Africa last 
> week. This RC pecker head, some sanctimonious Archbishop bold face 
> stated that Condoms caused AIDS!!! Imagine that! The entire RC church is 
> so full of shit is is mind boggling.
> 
> Bill.
> 
> wmd wrote:
> 
>> NOMAN wrote:
>>
>>>> Really...so the man who presided over the WORST cases of child abuse by
>>>> priests is a great man ? The man who has single handedly aliented more
>>>> catholics than likely any other pope in history ?? Churh attendance
>>>> (RC) is at it's lowest in history. He STILL won't give women their due
>>>> in the church keeping them in the back ground, subserviant to priests
>>>> and men in general...no...this is NOT a great man.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Luckily George,,,  you are merely a joke here and nobody takes
>>> anything you say as intelligent comment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gman makes valid points. The sex scandal aside, Pope John Paul II 
>> reigned for 26 years and had ample opportunity to move the Catholic 
>> church forward, but instead he toed the traditional line. Issues like 
>> abortion and gay marriage I never expect the Catholic church to 
>> accept, but John Paul II could have acted on more minor theological 
>> issues like the ordination of women, the issue of priests being able 
>> to marry, and condom use in such areas like Africa, where AIDS runs 
>> rampant.
>>
>> I can't say whether he was a great man or not ... he certainly made a 
>> mark on history, and I will say that he *seemed* like a good man, but 
>> he also seemed to be a slave to the conservative traditions of the 
>> church. I don't blame him for the sex abuse scandal - the individual 
>> priests are the ones to blame, although the church's handling of the 
>> whole affair was awful, but not unlike any secretive sect closing ranks.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see where the Catholic church goes from 
>> here. Hopefully they will try to save themselves and elect a pope who 
>> will be more open minded and try to change this institution for the 
>> better. Maybe then they can start to re-populate the church and 
>> attract more young people who, if not abandoning religion altogether, 
>> are leaving for more liberal churches.
>>
>> wmd
> 
> 


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($50 million?  Where the hell did you get that figure?
An aborton costs about $600. 100,000 x $600 =
$600,000.  Seems you failed arithmetic as well as
logic, Lauzon.  Why am I not surprised?)
--
-Ivan Gowch, Date: 2004-07-10 13:06:00 PST
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(To destroy evil, is to invite endless apathy.)
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-SilverStar
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