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Article #555Re: John Paul II dead
From: SunDancer
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:02
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:02
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...so you are saying condoms has stopped AIDS in it's tracks and celibacy hasn't? Zoloft wrote: > The most outrageous statement I ever heard anyone make, let alone a "man > of the cloth" make, was on a documentary about HIV/AIDS in Africa last > week. This RC pecker head, some sanctimonious Archbishop bold face > stated that Condoms caused AIDS!!! Imagine that! The entire RC church is > so full of shit is is mind boggling. > > Bill. > > wmd wrote: > >> NOMAN wrote: >> >>>> Really...so the man who presided over the WORST cases of child abuse by >>>> priests is a great man ? The man who has single handedly aliented more >>>> catholics than likely any other pope in history ?? Churh attendance >>>> (RC) is at it's lowest in history. He STILL won't give women their due >>>> in the church keeping them in the back ground, subserviant to priests >>>> and men in general...no...this is NOT a great man. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Luckily George,,, you are merely a joke here and nobody takes >>> anything you say as intelligent comment. >> >> >> >> >> Gman makes valid points. The sex scandal aside, Pope John Paul II >> reigned for 26 years and had ample opportunity to move the Catholic >> church forward, but instead he toed the traditional line. Issues like >> abortion and gay marriage I never expect the Catholic church to >> accept, but John Paul II could have acted on more minor theological >> issues like the ordination of women, the issue of priests being able >> to marry, and condom use in such areas like Africa, where AIDS runs >> rampant. >> >> I can't say whether he was a great man or not ... he certainly made a >> mark on history, and I will say that he *seemed* like a good man, but >> he also seemed to be a slave to the conservative traditions of the >> church. I don't blame him for the sex abuse scandal - the individual >> priests are the ones to blame, although the church's handling of the >> whole affair was awful, but not unlike any secretive sect closing ranks. >> >> It will be interesting to see where the Catholic church goes from >> here. Hopefully they will try to save themselves and elect a pope who >> will be more open minded and try to change this institution for the >> better. Maybe then they can start to re-populate the church and >> attract more young people who, if not abandoning religion altogether, >> are leaving for more liberal churches. >> >> wmd > > -- =================================== ($50 million? Where the hell did you get that figure? An aborton costs about $600. 100,000 x $600 = $600,000. Seems you failed arithmetic as well as logic, Lauzon. Why am I not surprised?) -- -Ivan Gowch, Date: 2004-07-10 13:06:00 PST =================================== (To destroy evil, is to invite endless apathy.) -- -SilverStar ===================================
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