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Article #602Re: Philosophical Arguments (was The Bible is False)
From: FNO
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 03:12
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 03:12
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"Danie|_ Swan" <DAN@ZIONIST-HEADQUARTERS.com> wrote in message news:03Spd.208969$9b.24671@edtnps84... > In article <9ZRpd.194083$df2.61818@edtnps89>, Me@home.ca says... > > > >act, I contend that > >the > >> more I were to excell at philosophy the greater chances of me being denied > >> tenureship. But that's pure speculation, same as yours. Nobody will know > >> until we put me through the paces. So is this a red herring? I think so. > >> > >You're right. They won't. And they won't need too many paces to decide > >that it would not be the right move. They expect intellectual discipline. > > > Is there something about the words RED and HERRING you don't understand? > > > >> > >> You do need to demonstrated how they are not supported or how they are > >> 'contradicted'. Simply proclaiming them as 'not supported' or > >'contradicted' > >> as if by magic, doesn't accomplish anything, except perhaps in your own > >> delusional world. > >> > >Again, yet another Ad Hominem fallacy. The object of the game is not to > >reprove the tenets of philosophy. Consequently, the contradiction and > >unsupportability of the arguments are self-evident; no magic required. > > 'reprove the tenets of philosphy'? What does that mean? What are you accusing > me of, and by what reference to a logical fallacy do you declare my claim > invalid? > > Go read what the logical fallacies are; they are pretty well defined. Then re-read the thread. If it doesn't become obvious, then there is no hope of me pointing out any further. I pointed them out as they occurred during the thread. its all there. > > >> >You have missed a horrendous amount. In many of the arguments, you have > >> >actually made the case for the existence of God. > >> > >> Because you say so without demonstrating how? Magic trumps me again. OH > >> dear. > >> > >Yes. You went through an entire reem of arguments that actually support the > >argument for the existence of God and you didn't even realize it. > > So help me realize it, via reason not magic or so-called prima-facie evidence. > Go re-read the thread. I pointed it out twice. > > > I > >actually pointed that out to you to give you an out since you screwed up the > >argument. You resorted to an Ad Hominem fallacy and name-calling rather > >than clarifying and correcing your position. At that point, I knew that you > >knew nothing about what you were talking about. Simply regurgitating > >references is tandamount to name-dropping; it doesn't prove you actually > >know anything any more than it proves that one knows the person whose name > >they drop. > > > >> > > Sounds like a fascinating drama, if my favorite show was Matlock. > Not drama at all. I didn't really find it fascinating. I found it nauseating; the same as I find any bogus claims from an over-inflated ego that cannot back it up with capability. > > > >Again. There is no such thing as reasoned faith. > > So all faith is unreasonable? Thank you! > That is what I have been saying all along. Like I said, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are the one who declared that your faith was based on 'highly-developed tools of reasoning'. OK. I don't teach for free. I am done with this thread. It has been mildly amusing, but I don't really think this is a productive use of my time. Reasoning requires intellectual discipline. After you have tried it for a while, come back and talk to me. OK? >
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