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"Danie|_ Swan" <DAN@ZIONIST-HEADQUARTERS.com> wrote in message
news:fpuod.177734$df2.85610@edtnps89...
> In article <mVsod.177242$df2.89454@edtnps89>, Me@home.ca says...
> >
> >
> >"Danie|_ Swan" <DAN@ZIONIST-HEADQUARTERS.com> wrote in message
> >news:03cod.198742$9b.62183@edtnps84...
> >> In article <gJbod.198728$9b.104050@edtnps84>, Me@home.ca says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Danie|_ Swan" <DAN@ZIONIST-HEADQUARTERS.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:xrbod.198725$9b.8138@edtnps84...
> >> >> In article <yebod.198717$9b.129259@edtnps84>, Me@home.ca says...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> you've just made an argument - that I don't understand the
> >definitions
> >> >of
> >> >> >what
> >> >> >> I'm talking about.  You've neither demonstrated the veracity of
that
> >> >> >argument,
> >> >> >> nor have you provided any indication that you understand the
> >> >definitions
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> what I'm talking about.  If you don't understand the definitions
of
> >the
> >> >> >words
> >> >> >> I'm using, how could you know that I don't understand them?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Simple.  "To put this in perspective, there is no behavioral
> >difference
> >> >> >between engaging in Pascal's wager, and engaging in an OCD ritual
> >> >> >(obsessive-compulsive disorder)", indicates that you don't know
what
> >OCD
> >> >is.
> >> >> >Whether I understand it or not becomes irrelevant.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> But I do know what OCD is, and I'm certain I've read far more on the
> >> >subject
> >> >> than you have.  I happen to have a friend with a severe case and so
I
> >did
> >> >quite
> >> >> a bit of research on it last year.  So that means you don't know
what
> >OCD
> >> >is.
> >> >>
> >> >I see.  Trust me.  I can GUARANTEE you that I know considerably more
> >about
> >> >OCD than you do unless you have specific education (not personal
research
> >> >because of your freind) on the subject.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No, trust me, you do not know nearly as much about OCD as I do.  I am a
> >very
> >> highly functioning autodidact and a couple months of my study on a
subject
> >is
> >> equivelent to years of graduate work.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >LOL!  There are many who claim such things, and in the absence of any
proof
> >(and given your statements above, proof to the contrary) you'll have to
> >pardon my scepticism.
> >
> >
>
> I'm just as skeptical about your expertise regarding mental health,
> particularly OCD, as you are of mine.  But I am prepared to discuss any
aspect
> of the topic with you in order to find out if my skepticism is warranted.
You,
> on the other hand, don't seem to be as forthright.  You made an accusation
that
> I don't know much about OCD because of a claim I made.  You can either
attempt
> to refute the claim or our ad hominems will remain deadlocked.
>

OK.  I'll bite.  I am not going to get into a long discussion about mental
health since this is neither the thread, nor am I so inclined.  However,
your claim that religious ritual is no different than an OCD ritual is false
because of one very important point; choice.  People with OCD are
obsessive-compulsive and are not governed by choice.  Those who choose to
practice religion do so for a variety of reasons; but they all choose.  OCD
is a mental health issue that is damaging to the individual limits their
abilities to fully participate in society, and to compare it to the practice
of religion minimizes both its impacts and its sufferers.  While you may not
agree with choice people make to practice religion, it is still a choice.
OCD is not.  In addition, the practice of religion has no true pathology
because it is not a mental issue.  OCD has very specific pathology which is
why it can be diagnosed as an illness.

Your claim is tantamount to claiming that all soldiers in combat are
psychopathic because they can kill without any remorse in the moment.  Again
psychopaths have a very specific pathology and while there is a larger
preponderance of psychopaths in the military, not all soldiers who kill are
psychopaths.  Consequently, your statement comparing OCD with the practice
of religion is not only false, but it calls into question the rest of your
argument; since from the perspective of logic, one fallacy invalidates an
argument.

End of discussion on OCD and mental health.  If you want to continue the
discussion on whether the Bible is false or not, fire away.