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Cut the crap get down to the proof your bible is anything but fables, fairy 
tales, dogma or bull crap. ONE shred will do and real proof not fables 
stories explainable miracles but touchable proof.
The bible is so filled with contradiction out and out bologna and sad 
excuses.
How about the Bible fellow who went around the whole world when at the time 
the transportation would have taken 1000 years for the trip and collected 2 
of everything, now that would be millions of animals bugs birds enough for 
1000 ships and some how fit them a small boat. (Laugh here)




"Norman Miller" <spamthis@die.invalid> wrote in message 
news:MPG.1c07f249d7a1b8be989c94@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <aa4rp0pjpl5q7ttqs20n7sdebr7c77n0na@4ax.com>, Opus- says...
>
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:45:05 GMT, Norman Miller <spamthis@die.invalid>
>> spake thusly:
>
>> >In article <858bd3a9.0411171050.7c8514d0@posting.google.com>, Michael
>> >Yardley says...
>
>> >> <<<< No I am not. I am saying that the whole Bible is False as the
>> >> subject thread states. They copied it from the Egyptians. the
>> >> Christians, the Jew's the lot. The atheist newsgroup's address this
>> >> issue very well. Egyptians Gods and characters can be directly related
>> >> to "Jesus". "Acanortan". When I was a kid they fed me all this drib
>> >> about Jesus and Bible. It is a crock of bullshit. >>>
>
>> >False? Compared to what "Truth"? Copied from the Egyptians? Hardly. The
>> >Egyptians were polytheists to the core. How do you get monotheism from a
>> >polytheistic origin?
>
>> Very very easily. It's no bid deal to combine characteristics into one
>> "god".
>
> It would be a leap of faith. The Egyptians obliterated the memory of the 
> one
> Pharoah who dared it.
>
>> >Atheists don't address the matter very well at all. An atheistic dogma 
>> >is
>> >still a dogma; an atheistic belief is still a belief.
>
>> Actually, no. Atheism isn't a belief, it's a non-belief.
>
> It is a belief; it is a belief in the non-existence of God.
>
>> >Sometimes it seems as
>> >though there is more effort to believe in no god than to believe in any 
>> >god.
>
>>  This is too easy.
>> Egyptian polytheism wasn't the only source for monotheism.
>> Zeus, aka "Zeus Pateras," who we now automatically believe to be a
>> myth and not a historical figure, takes his name from the Indian
>> version, "Dyaus Pitar." Dyaus Pitar in turn is related to the Egyptian
>> "Ptah," and from both Pitar and Ptah comes the word "pater," or
>> "father." "Zeus" equals "Dyaus," which became "Deos," "Deus" and
>> "Dios" - "God." "Zeus Pateras," like Dyaus Pitar, means, "God the
>> Father," a very ancient concept that in no way originated with "Jesus"
>> and Christianity. There is no question of Zeus being a historical
>> character. Dyaus Pitar becomes "Jupiter" in Roman mythology, and
>> likewise is not representative of an actual, historical character. In
>> Egyptian mythology, Ptah, the Father, is the unseen god-force, and the
>> sun was viewed as Ptah's visible proxy who brings everlasting life to
>> the earth; hence, the "son of God" is really the "sun God." Indeed,
>> according to Hotema, the very name "Christ" comes from the Hindi word
>> "Kris" (as in Krishna), which is a name for the sun.
>
> Zeus is not the same as Jaweh. You do know that the Japanese word 'kami' 
> is
> usually translated as 'god'? You do know that the concept of 'kami' is not
> the same as the concept of "God"? Jaweh was translated into Greek in much
> the same fashion. Pulling together a bunch of false cognancy doesn't prove
> anything. Deos is not Jaweh.
>
> Ptah, ptooey; more false cognancy. Christ is derived from the Greek word 
> for
> "anointed". Jesus was not Greek, but Jewish. The word he would use for
> anointed would be the Hebrew word, "messiah".
>
>>  Furthermore, since Horus was called "Iusa/Iao/Iesu" the "KRST," and
>> Krishna/Christna was called "Jezeus," centuries before any Jewish
>> character similarly named, it would be safe to assume that Jesus
>> Christ is just a repeat of Horus and Krishna, among the rest.
>
> "Assume"...makes an "ass" of "u" and "me"; assumptions are anything but
> safe. Jesus is the Greek derivation of Yeshuwa, a Hebrew name meaning, "He
> will save". Horus, apparently, has no definition, being merely a falcon-
> headed false god.
>
> Oddly, Google leads me to a multitude of sites on "Jesus", and on 
> "Jezeus",
> taken as words; but non seem to offer an authoritative etymology of the
> word. However, I will assert that this appears to be yet another false
> cognancy on your part; taking a coincidental similarity in the sounds of
> different words, from different languages, with totally different 
> meanings.
> That Yeshuwa would be transliterated into Greek as Jesus would have more 
> to
> do with the familiarity of pronunciation than an deeper meaning.
>
> How would you pronounce 'karaoke'? "Carry-okie"? That is the most common
> pronunciation I have heard; yet, it is wrong. "Kaw-rah-oh-keh" would be
> closer, if still incorrect. And what does it mean? Most people (outside of
> Japan) probably would not even associate the 'kara' of 'karaoke' with the
> 'kara' of 'karate'. What does singing music have to do with a martial art?
>
> You are straining at gnats in your attempt to swallow camels! The rest is
> almost certainly more of the same.
>
>>  Indeed, that the Christians worship on Sunday betrays the genuine
>> origins of their god and godman. Their "savior" is actually the sun,
>> which is the "Light of the world that every eye can see." The sun has
>> been viewed consistently throughout history as the savior of mankind
>> for reasons that are obvious. Without the sun, the planet would
>> scarcely last one day. So important was the sun to the ancients that
>> they composed a "Sun Book," or "Helio Biblia," which became the "Holy
>> Bible."
>
> "Holy" and "helio" are unrelated. You have built your entire argument on a
> handful of coincidences; false cognancies. As I have asserted, you work
> extra hard at disbelief. What fantastic effort to avoid facing your God!
>
> -- 
> Norman
> ~I believe in fantasies
> ~invisible to me.
> ~In the land of misery
> ~I'm searching for a sign