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Jon Pike <Anonomoose@spamlesshotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95A1B7944571ALessThanPerfectInc@24.71.223.159>...
> ghost_of_the_hangman@yahoo.com (Ghost of IT) wrote in 
> news:b22f8b35.0411141555.32b478c7@posting.google.com:
> 
> > So as not to add miles to the previous thread.....
> > 
> > The problem with using the Bible as a guidebook is:
> > 
> > 1) The current King James Bible is not the original bible.
> 
> There's no such thing as an "original bible."
> However, the KJV was not the first printed, as many claim, nor was it the 
> first translation.
> 

The original bible was a canonization of several different works. 
Interesting that you would say there is no original bible, because
I know there is debate within the church on this. Especially considering
how much revisionist history can be brought up by the persecution of
the Cathars, and also the Gnostic manuscripts which have been mostly
disavowed by the Vatican.

> > 2) When the current bible was created much was lost in translation
> 
> The "current" bible? Which version? The NIV is a very accurate translation 
> for the chosen inclusions.
> 

Well I think real scholars would disagree. I have seen plenty of work
that shows how the Hebrew->Greek->Latin translations have the meanings
of words mixed up. Some of this is perhaps small semantics, but given
how current evangelicals and self proclaimed "scholars" like the 
Jack Van Impe's of the world try to interpret and reinterpret what
each bible passage implies, then that makes it a issue.

> > 3) Many of the original scrolls and manuscripts have been left out.
> 
> Again, no such thing as an "original" bible. The bible as it stands today  
> is a compilation chosen by the vatican; all versions of it.
> 

The Vatican and Pope Innocent promoted the destruction of various smaller
sects during both the Inquisition and the destruction of the Cathars and
the Templar descendents.  They did this to destroy their popular support
for different version of the bible, and different interpretations that
clashed with the power base of the Catholic Church.

There have technically been several versions of the bible with different
canonizations, and some of what has been left out is in the Vatican 
Library Archives where none are permitted to see it.

> > 4) The Vatican to this day has concealed much of the source of the
> >    old scrolls and other writings that contradict the bible for
> >    obvious reasons.
> 
> Proof?

Research the Gnostic Manuscripts and you will find out about other
scrolls and stone tablets that were unearthed. They have been disavowed
because they contradict the bible, not because the scrolls can't be
validated historically. 

Given the historic links between Judaism and Christianity and Islam
to ancient cultic practices, there is also a question of how much
in the bible is actually "Christianity" and how much is simply 
an evolution of older traditions with pagan roots.