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Most all of it.
Stories stolen from past civilizations, such as the world flood.


"Ghost of IT" <ghost_of_the_hangman@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> Jon Pike <Anonomoose@spamlesshotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>> ghost_of_the_hangman@yahoo.com (Ghost of IT) wrote in
>> news:b22f8b35.0411141555.32b478c7@posting.google.com:
>>
>> > So as not to add miles to the previous thread.....
>> >
>> > The problem with using the Bible as a guidebook is:
>> >
>> > 1) The current King James Bible is not the original bible.
>>
>> There's no such thing as an "original bible."
>> However, the KJV was not the first printed, as many claim, nor was it the
>> first translation.
>>
>
> The original bible was a canonization of several different works.
> Interesting that you would say there is no original bible, because
> I know there is debate within the church on this. Especially considering
> how much revisionist history can be brought up by the persecution of
> the Cathars, and also the Gnostic manuscripts which have been mostly
> disavowed by the Vatican.
>
>> > 2) When the current bible was created much was lost in translation
>>
>> The "current" bible? Which version? The NIV is a very accurate 
>> translation
>> for the chosen inclusions.
>>
>
> Well I think real scholars would disagree. I have seen plenty of work
> that shows how the Hebrew->Greek->Latin translations have the meanings
> of words mixed up. Some of this is perhaps small semantics, but given
> how current evangelicals and self proclaimed "scholars" like the
> Jack Van Impe's of the world try to interpret and reinterpret what
> each bible passage implies, then that makes it a issue.
>
>> > 3) Many of the original scrolls and manuscripts have been left out.
>>
>> Again, no such thing as an "original" bible. The bible as it stands today
>> is a compilation chosen by the vatican; all versions of it.
>>
>
> The Vatican and Pope Innocent promoted the destruction of various smaller
> sects during both the Inquisition and the destruction of the Cathars and
> the Templar descendents.  They did this to destroy their popular support
> for different version of the bible, and different interpretations that
> clashed with the power base of the Catholic Church.
>
> There have technically been several versions of the bible with different
> canonizations, and some of what has been left out is in the Vatican
> Library Archives where none are permitted to see it.
>
>> > 4) The Vatican to this day has concealed much of the source of the
>> >    old scrolls and other writings that contradict the bible for
>> >    obvious reasons.
>>
>> Proof?
>
> Research the Gnostic Manuscripts and you will find out about other
> scrolls and stone tablets that were unearthed. They have been disavowed
> because they contradict the bible, not because the scrolls can't be
> validated historically.
>
> Given the historic links between Judaism and Christianity and Islam
> to ancient cultic practices, there is also a question of how much
> in the bible is actually "Christianity" and how much is simply
> an evolution of older traditions with pagan roots.