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Re: Former minister executed for abortion murders

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From: Douglas Martin
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:37
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JohnL <""johnl\"@(nospaming)tcn.net> wrote in news:o437b.2495$f7.178923
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>> Two cells (or even a few dozen cells) are not a human being
> > any more than any other cells in your body are in and of
> > themselves a human being. Where in the Bible does it say that
> > at conception you have a human being? (and you can't refer
> > simply to "life", since the other cells in your body are
> > alive).
> 
> ...so you where never 'conceived' in your mother's womb???
> 

Excuse me - try READING people's messages. Certainly I was conceived in my 
mother's uterus. I never said that I wasn't. The fact that there was a glob 
of cells that was going to develop into a human being (i.e. me) after a great 
deal of differentiation does not mean that that initial glob of cells was a 
human being. If I order a dozen roses for someone, I would be rather 
displeased if they received a packet of 12 seeds.

If you insist that that initial glob of cells is a human being, then the 
spermatozoa and ovum before joining must also, collectively, be a human being 
(why should the fact that the two are separated change things? All the 
genetic code of the future human being is there). I hope you're having sex as 
many times as humanly possible and with as many women as humanly possible - 
wouldn't want to have any of those human beings go to waste!

I'll repeat the question that you neglected to answer - where in the Bible 
does it say that you have a human being at conception? 
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Subject: Re: Former minister executed for abortion murders
From: Douglas Martin <dougmart@shaw.ca>
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