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Article #914Re: Former minister executed for abortion murders
From: Douglas Martin
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:37
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:37
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JohnL <""johnl\"@(nospaming)tcn.net> wrote in news:o437b.2495$f7.178923 @localhost: >> Two cells (or even a few dozen cells) are not a human being > > any more than any other cells in your body are in and of > > themselves a human being. Where in the Bible does it say that > > at conception you have a human being? (and you can't refer > > simply to "life", since the other cells in your body are > > alive). > > ...so you where never 'conceived' in your mother's womb??? > Excuse me - try READING people's messages. Certainly I was conceived in my mother's uterus. I never said that I wasn't. The fact that there was a glob of cells that was going to develop into a human being (i.e. me) after a great deal of differentiation does not mean that that initial glob of cells was a human being. If I order a dozen roses for someone, I would be rather displeased if they received a packet of 12 seeds. If you insist that that initial glob of cells is a human being, then the spermatozoa and ovum before joining must also, collectively, be a human being (why should the fact that the two are separated change things? All the genetic code of the future human being is there). I hope you're having sex as many times as humanly possible and with as many women as humanly possible - wouldn't want to have any of those human beings go to waste! I'll repeat the question that you neglected to answer - where in the Bible does it say that you have a human being at conception?
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109a5e,e4043a1c858a7344 X-Google-Attributes: gid109a5e,public X-Google-Thread: fbdd9,2c99e93c66ced169 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbdd9,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,2c99e93c66ced169 X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 10d2a3,2c99e93c66ced169 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d2a3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-09 17:38:09 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!68.6.19.232.MISMATCH!west.cox.net!east.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!cox.net!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.162.87 Newsgroups: hfx.general,edm.general,tor.general,calgary.general Subject: Re: Former minister executed for abortion murders From: Douglas Martin <dougmart@shaw.ca> References: <gHU4b.43440$_5.781048@news1.telusplanet.net> <5dddc6fb.0309020800.5d90c344@posting.google.com> <AF55b.889525$3C2.20511042@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <5dddc6fb.0309021426.4f2d8773@posting.google.com> <G195b.1878$I_2.246534@news20.bellglobal.com> <5dddc6fb.0309030648.cfb775e@posting.google.com> <Xns93EBE96383C5Fbytemybnanacom@142.77.1.194> <20030903102902529-0600@news.telusplanet.net> <fe7331.0309041022.5f99694a@posting.google.com> <20030904012927508-0600@news.telusplanet.net> <jZN5b.905505$3C2.20796503@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <hHQ5b.2025$f7.155462@localhost> <vlfsvm50a655a0@corp.supernews.com> <DJu6b.2262$f7.165052@localhost> <Xns93EF509B53D9Bdougmartshawca@24.70.95.211> <o437b.2495$f7.178923@localhost> Message-ID: <Xns93F1BD8EB6574dougmartshawca@24.70.95.211> Followup-To: hfx.general,edm.general User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Lines: 29 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:37:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.70.95.207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1063154277 24.70.95.207 (Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:37:57 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:37:57 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet