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Article #950Re: gas up 7 cents
From: sparkie
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:56
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:56
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Jason Cormier wrote: > I suspect they will proceed carefully when one considers the massive > political mess the 407 has become. This includes.... > > - cost of construction > - lowball sale price to private consortium > - tolls rising well beyond previously agreed maximums > - punitive late fees that were massively reduced in a recent class action > suit > - major slowdown of expansion and improvements after being privatised > - broken promises to the people of Halton/Hamilton/Niagara after the portion > of the 407 west of Mississauga was given tot the 407consortium instead of > being an extension of the (free use 403) > > Hopefully they will learn from the many mistakes made by the NDP and PC > governments on Ontario. I have no problem with toll roads (especially as > alterative routes) but they need to be planned and run more thoughtfully > than what one has seen with the 407. I had not followed the "political mess of the 407". But I know that it is being used heavily, and it is a cash-cow for the province. The cars crawl (stop and go) during the morning and evening rush 2-3 hours on the provincial highway. There is a need to even widen the 407. 403 is heavily used too, but the traffic moves, and is well maintained. The idea of the toll road is that, as the other poster "FNO" mentioned, "pay as you use it". So the road would be supported by the drivers who use the road, not the local government nor the additional gas taxes. The voters will decide to keep or remove the politicians in the next election. Back to the subject.... Most of the rural gas stations, such as Sydney NS, have dropped more than 7-9 cents now, since it was first discussed. However, major cities like Halifax NS, Toronto ON, Seattle WA, still maintained that 7 cents increase at the pump. ***
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