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Re: Bell Atlantic replies!

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From: David Paper
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 00:00
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In article <50un87$fu@news2.cais.com>,
Eric Youngdale <ericy@cais.cais.com> wrote:
>In article <50t4vs$roc@shado.jaguNET.com>,
>Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>ericy@cais.cais.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>>
>>At least with ISDN, you don't "compete" for the line, so you can
>>be assured of your 64-128bps.
>
>	I hope you mean 64-128Kbit/sec :-).  Sorry, couldn't resist.

yeah, I'm sure he did :)

>>Although you may enjoy 10Mbps on the cable network, the rest of the
>>'Net is not there. Most ISPs are T1 or possibly T3. So what good is the
>>pipe being capable of 10Mbps on the cable-side when, as soon as you
>>move over into the "real" part of the 'Net, the odds are very, very
>>good that the place you are connecting to has, at most, a T1, and
>>between you and them there might be who-knows-what.
>
>        I see your point, and it is one I have already thought of.
>I have a couple of comments.
>
>        First of all - T1 speeds are acceptable.  If the cable modem gave me

Umm. Last time I checked, Jones Cable of Alexandria requested the FCC license
to deliver the type of service you just installed to somewhere around 62,500
houses.  If you had your OWN t1, that would be fine. I wouldn't share a t1
among 62,500 houses if every house JUs thad a 14.4 modem.  See where I'm
coming from?  You said that at peak times, you saw 5kb/sec. Think how fast
that's going to be where 20 people like yourself get cable modems and start
to pound the link.

I saw what you mentioned about topology of your network and connection to the
internet.  The idea is fantastic. I'm an ISDN user, and it's very quick
compared to a modem, but slow compared to your connection right now.  But -
I don't share worry about loosing part of that 128K line at 6pm :)

>1Mbit/sec I wouldn't be upset.  Prior to getting the cable modem,
>I had a 14.4 connection via a traditional modem.  It is slow, it ties
>up the normal phone line, I get a dropped connection when someone calls
>me (because I have call-waiting).  I needed something better, and this is
>a cost-competitive alternative to ISDN.  Actually I know people who have ISDN,
>and getting customer support from Bell can be a real pain at some times.

More than a pain.

>
>        Secondly, let me ask how much you pay for ISDN per month?

$40/mo plus 9 cents/call/channel. make a call leave it up forever.

>Are you paying any usage fees?  Have you been following what BellAtlantic

just the above, not metered by time.

>has proposed to the PSC's in both MD and VA?  If Bell were to get
>their way, residential ISDN would be more than twice as expensive than
>what I am paying for the high-speed access via the cable modem, and
>all you get is a physical medium that is 80 times slower.

yes, I've been to the MD PSC. They love citizens. what are you talking about :)

-dave


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Date: 1996/09/08
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