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Article #142Re: Only in Austin: Restaurant forced to move because they have meat on the menu
From: Mick Vann
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:55
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:55
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I never understood how it's okay for her to lease to not one but two gas
stations that , if they are like the majority, leak petroleum products
into the groundwater, concentrate gas fumes to one area, allow the
detailers to clean rich folks cars needlessly, etc, etc, etc...but it's
not okay to serve meat. Seems kinda whomperjawed to me....mick
Matt Russell wrote:
>In article <MPG.19c69569ca87b3a7989759@news.rice.edu>,
> Chris Dieckmann <spamcorral@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <Xns93F05B15ABB34albertnurickcom@24.28.95.190>,
>>albert@nurick.com says...
>>
>>>A longtime Austin restaurant is being forced to move by it landlord (who
>>>lives in Houston, unfortunately) because they sell animal products.
>>>
>>I'm already regretting adding this reply, but what is the point of
>>ridicule here? The businesses aren't being "forced" to move (implying an
>>eviction); their leases are not just being renewed after their
>>completion. As the owner of the shopping center, Ms. Daniels is simply
>>running a business guided by her morals/beliefs/conscience and whether it
>>makes business sense is really the only debatable point. I wonder if the
>>reaction would be the same if the Southern Baptist owner of a strip
>>center "forced" a liquor store or dance studio to move...or how about a
>>Mormon landlord unable to come to terms with a Starbucks? What about
>>taking a stance on a tobacconist? An adult bookstore? How about the
>>infamous midnight razing in Market Square by our beloved Pappas clan?
>>Apparently their morals/beliefs/conscience don't encompass civic pride or
>>a sense of neighborhood history either.
>>
>
>What she's doing is perfectly legal, moral in her own twisted view of
>things, and being in Austin, our own Central Texas bowl of nuts &
>flakes, will no doubt be applauded by a large sector of the tofu &
>Birkenstock crowd.
>
>There might be an argument to be made that the restaurant has a certain
>amount of perceived equity built up in its long-time location, and would
>be irreparably harmed by being forced to move, but getting a favorable
>judgement would be an extreme longshot.
>
>Make sure you get to the part of the article where the bridal shop had
>to relocate because the property owner refused to let the lessee
>exterminate the ants. I can deal with someone being a vegan. Not my
>cup of beef bouillion, but somewhat understandable. Forcing someone to
>cohabitate with noxious vermin, though, is ridiculous.
>
>Here's the link again, since it got trimmed earlier.
>
>http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=83100
>
>
>Matt
>
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I never understood how it's okay for her to lease to not one but two gas
stations that , if they are like the majority, leak petroleum products into
the groundwater, concentrate gas fumes to one area, allow the detailers to
clean rich folks cars needlessly, etc, etc, etc...but it's not okay to serve
meat. Seems kinda whomperjawed to me....mick<br>
<br>
Matt Russell wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:pirate-E11489.15112908092003@library.airnews.net">
<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:MPG.19c69569ca87b3a7989759@news.rice.edu"><MPG.19c69569ca87b3a7989759@news.rice.edu></a>,<br> Chris Dieckmann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spamcorral@yahoo.com"><spamcorral@yahoo.com></a> wrote:<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Xns93F05B15ABB34albertnurickcom@24.28.95.190"><Xns93F05B15ABB34albertnurickcom@24.28.95.190></a>, <br><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:albert@nurick.com">albert@nurick.com</a> says...<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">A longtime Austin restaurant is being forced to move by it landlord (who <br>lives in Houston, unfortunately) because they sell animal products. <br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">I'm already regretting adding this reply, but what is the point of <br>ridicule here? The businesses aren't being "forced" to move (implying an <br>eviction); their leases are not just being renewed after their <br>completion. As the owner of the shopping center, Ms. Daniels is simply <br>running a business guided by her morals/beliefs/conscience and whether it <br>makes business sense is really the only debatable point. I wonder if the <br>reaction would be the same if the Southern Baptist owner of a strip <br>center "forced" a liquor store or dance studio to move...or how about a <br>Mormon landlord unable to come to terms with a Starbucks? What about <br>taking a stance on a tobacconist? An adult bookstore? How about the <br>infamous midnight razing in Market Square by our beloved Pappas clan? <br>Apparently their morals/beliefs/conscience don't encompass civic pride or <br>a sense of neighborhood history either.<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!----><br>What she's doing is perfectly legal, moral in her own twisted view of <br>things, and being in Austin, our own Central Texas bowl of nuts & <br>flakes, will no doubt be applauded by a large sector of the tofu & <br>Birkenstock crowd.<br><br>There might be an argument to be made that the restaurant has a certain <br>amount of perceived equity built up in its long-time location, and would <br>be irreparably harmed by being forced to move, but getting a favorable <br>judgement would be an extreme longshot. <br><br>Make sure you get to the part of the article where the bridal shop had <br>to relocate because the property owner refused to let the lessee <br>exterminate the ants. I can deal with someone being a vegan. Not my <br>cup of beef bouillion, but somewhat understandable. Forcing someone to <br>cohabitate with noxious vermin, though, is ridiculous.<br><br>Here's the link again, since it got trimmed earlier.<br><br><a class="moz-txt-
link-freetext" href="http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=83100">http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=83100</a><br><br><br>Matt<br></pre>
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