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Article #263Re: Do we need 12 million to pick lettuce?
From: James Arveson
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:24
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:24
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"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:55iq42ph17o65342smpu8b1aae3cee5d61@4ax.com... > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:57:00 -0400, Just Cocky <just@cocky.com> wrote: > > [...] > >>> >>>Labor unions, for example, were formed to provide a means for losers to >>>consolidate their power to protect their interests. >>> >> >>Indeed. That's why they hurt America so much. > > At one time unions were very much needed. Children were > forced to work 12 to 16 hour days. Adults and children did extremely > dangerous jobs without any real training or safety measures. > Those days are long gone. Now they only sever to protect the > poor (production wise, not financially) worker(s). Unions are an example of people operating in their self interest, a motivation presumeably encouraged by Mr, Cocky. They form a collaborative organization, much like other groups form collaborative organizations called corporations, and market their services so as to maximize their returns. What could be more American than that? They also attempt to influence government policy to their advantage, just as many other organizations do. Mr. Cocky can disagree with the outcome of their efforts, but the principles fall well within the bounds of a free enterprise economy. Mr. Cocky was evasive about the his financial sensitivity to the influx of illegal immigrants. I assume from his non-answer that he does not see them as a threat to his livelihood. Perhaps he even owns a small business or a farm and benefits from cheap illegal labor. If he suffered personally from the impact of cheap illegal labor, he would have a different perspective. James
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