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Article #53Re: Do we need 12 million to pick lettuce?
From: James Arveson
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:50
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:50
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"Just Cocky" <just@cocky.com> wrote in message news:eu2m42lnle9qfhqifhataevg87liv276r5@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:34:05 -0700, "James Arveson" > <jamesarveson@cox.net> wrote: >>Over 50K people got a green card last year through legal methods. The >>prime >>requirement was that they had a job open to them that could not be filled >>by >>a citizen. That is a particularly difficult requirement if you want a job >>as, say, a carpenter or a meat packer. >> > > Yes, that's what I've been saying the whole time, that it's very > difficult for these people to legally immigrate to the US. > > -- And for good reason, as pointed out in the section you snipped. The prime requirement was that they had a job open to them that could not be filled by a citizen. That is a particularly difficult requirement if you want a job as, say, a carpenter or a meat packer. The only way an illegal can get one of those jobs is to undercut the wages of a US citizen who would take the same job, but at the going wage. That is why these people have to sneak in across the border, buy falsified documents (a felony, btw) and take jobs from unscrupulous employers at scab wages. The situation for some jobs is now so bad that even the honest contractors, meat packers, hotels, etc., can't stay in business unless they force all employees to work at the same depressed wages - illegal or not. James
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