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Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone with
the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system... your
selling.. vaporware


"Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
>
> IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> --
> --Andrey
>
>
>

Not exactly. What happens if your system is out of warranty and you
erase MBR (Master Boot Record) which gives you the option for F11?
You will not be possible to get to the hidden partition without 3-rd party
programs. The cheapest one, Partition Magic will run well over $70.

Second of all, if you're not interested in CD, I absolutely don't see a
point in your comment, which besides being pointless, is inaccurate as well.
--
--Andrey

"Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone with
> the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system... your
> selling.. vaporware
>
>
> "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> >
> > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > --
> > --Andrey
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Mon, 04 Mar 2002 01:56:23 GMT : Andrey says...
 
> > "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> > >
> > > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > > --
> > > --Andrey
> > >

> "Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> > Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone with
> > the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system... your
> > selling.. vaporware
> >

> Not exactly. What happens if your system is out of warranty and you
> erase MBR (Master Boot Record) which gives you the option for F11?
> You will not be possible to get to the hidden partition without 3-rd party
> programs. The cheapest one, Partition Magic will run well over $70.
> 
> Second of all, if you're not interested in CD, I absolutely don't see a
> point in your comment, which besides being pointless, is inaccurate as well.
> --
> --Andrey

Timothy was correct.  Restore disks are not like plain vanilla copies 
of the operating system.  They are designed to function solely with 
the system for which they were designed.  It *will not* work in 
another computer and very likely it will not work even in a computer 
of the same brand.  So unless someone has the *exact same* system for 
which this restore disk was designed, it's completely useless.

Model Number is the KEY
As unless one were to send in there unit after Purchase
Each Model Number is made the same with the same parts
and when I say model I refer not to the T22
But the Other Number Given Called : Type Number
For Example
   I have in front of me a Model:310 ED
But the Type Number is a 2600-**X-**XXX
The *'S Represent Numbers and the X 'S are Letters
The Point here is This is what tells IBM What Parts This 310ED Has
Now the only Kicker to this as well is
If this Unit were sent in under say a three year Warranty
The Parts No longer Available would be Swapped with Replacement Parts
   One last thing to point out is this though
In Most Cases the Model Numbers can Restore disks are all the same
as their only thing given Options to buying Customers is
Size of Hard drives and Amount of Ram
If a Customer were to call Order a System
That went beyond what were offered as far as Speed of CPU and or Even Units
having instead a DVD and or CD Burner
The Letters after the Number would Indicate what the unit came with
   Where what this Gentleman is selling is Of GREAT Use to a T22 Owner is If
Say I bought a Used Unit and Or Refurbished unit from some sellers The
Restore disks are not part of the sale many times
   And or if I were to By a Larger Hard Drive after buying the unit
The Restore disks would be of Great Use
   Only buyers Can Decide the Value of these Disks
So One owning a System that may have Ruined Their set up and might know
Nothing
about how to restore it would place a Higher Value than one having some
Knowledge
"M. Harris" <mharris@MAPSONcliffhanger.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16ece8acb3b4b1ce9896da@news.west.cox.net...
> Mon, 04 Mar 2002 01:56:23 GMT : Andrey says...
>
> > > "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> > > >
> > > > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > > > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > > > --
> > > > --Andrey
> > > >
>
> > "Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone
with
> > > the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system...
your
> > > selling.. vaporware
> > >
>
> > Not exactly. What happens if your system is out of warranty and you
> > erase MBR (Master Boot Record) which gives you the option for F11?
> > You will not be possible to get to the hidden partition without 3-rd
party
> > programs. The cheapest one, Partition Magic will run well over $70.
> >
> > Second of all, if you're not interested in CD, I absolutely don't see a
> > point in your comment, which besides being pointless, is inaccurate as
well.
> > --
> > --Andrey
>
> Timothy was correct.  Restore disks are not like plain vanilla copies
> of the operating system.  They are designed to function solely with
> the system for which they were designed.  It *will not* work in
> another computer and very likely it will not work even in a computer
> of the same brand.  So unless someone has the *exact same* system for
> which this restore disk was designed, it's completely useless.

Model Number is the KEY
As unless one were to send in there unit after Purchase
Each Model Number is made the same with the same parts
and when I say model I refer not to the T22
But the Other Number Given Called : Type Number
For Example
   I have in front of me a Model:310 ED
But the Type Number is a 2600-**X-**XXX
The *'S Represent Numbers and the X 'S are Letters
The Point here is This is what tells IBM What Parts This 310ED Has
Now the only Kicker to this as well is
If this Unit were sent in under say a three year Warranty
The Parts No longer Available would be Swapped with Replacement Parts
   One last thing to point out is this though
In Most Cases the Model Numbers can Restore disks are all the same
as their only thing given Options to buying Customers is
Size of Hard drives and Amount of Ram
If a Customer were to call Order a System
That went beyond what were offered as far as Speed of CPU and or Even Units
having instead a DVD and or CD Burner
The Letters after the Number would Indicate what the unit came with
   Where what this Gentleman is selling is Of GREAT Use to a T22 Owner is If
Say I bought a Used Unit and Or Refurbished unit from some sellers The
Restore disks are not part of the sale many times
   And or if I were to By a Larger Hard Drive after buying the unit
The Restore disks would be of Great Use
   Only buyers Can Decide the Value of these Disks
So One owning a System that may have Ruined Their set up and might know
Nothing
about how to restore it would place a Higher Value than one having some
Knowledge
"Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone with
> the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system... your
> selling.. vaporware
>
>
> "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> >
> > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > --
> > --Andrey
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"M. Harris" <mharris@MAPSONcliffhanger.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16ece8acb3b4b1ce9896da@news.west.cox.net...

> Timothy was correct.  Restore disks are not like plain vanilla copies
> of the operating system.  They are designed to function solely with
> the system for which they were designed.  It *will not* work in
> another computer and very likely it will not work even in a computer
> of the same brand.  So unless someone has the *exact same* system for
> which this restore disk was designed, it's completely useless.

There are a number of inaccuracies in this thread, not the least of which is
the usefulness of these CDs.

1) Here in the US IBM will ship a set of recovery CDs to the purchaser of
any of the late model A, T, X series machines for FREE! (I just got a set
for my wife's new T22.) Even CDs for earlier systems are available, either
for free or at a reduced cost, although IBM is quickly running out of them
for older systems such as the 770, 600, etc.

2) The CDs aren't as machine specific as you might think and are usually
released in a series version that is usable on a range of systems, e.g. A30,
T23, X23 would all use the same recovery CD. The recovery CDs for my T21 and
my wife's T22 are the _same_ version no.!

3) Provided you have the correct drivers available, a later release of a
recovery CD can often be used on an earlier machine. E.g., I can use the W2K
recovery CD that came with my 600X on my 600E without undue difficulty,
which is pretty much to be expected. However you would probably be surprised
to learn that it could also be used in an ancient 760XL or a 755CD! (Not
that I would ever do this however, as that would be illegal and Bill Gates
would hunt me down and castrate me with a rusty beer can! Or so I've been
told.)

Andrey's offering of these CDs is something that could prove useful to many
and his price is fair, particularly if you don't qualify for a free set from
IBM. The only things you really have to bear in mind were you to take
advantage of his offer is that the CDs don't come with a COA or EULA!

Good luck with the sale Andrey, I'm sure there are many who could find a use
for the CDs. Hell, for $30 I might just pickup an extra set for my library
myself!

Regards,

James

"M. Harris" wrote:

> > Not exactly. What happens if your system is out of warranty and you
> > erase MBR (Master Boot Record) which gives you the option for F11?
> > You will not be possible to get to the hidden partition without 3-rd party
> > programs. The cheapest one, Partition Magic will run well over $70.

No, the cheapest one -- and the best one IMO -- is BootIt NG (for less
than half that price), plus you get to try it out for a month free.

If you've lost your MBR, it's a life saver.

I used Partition Magic for years, but I dumped it six months ago for
"BING" (as BootItNG afficianados call it).

www.bootitng.com


/da

Thank you LARRY and JHEM for explaining the situation
to the people who are unaware that IBM Restore CDs are.

The only reason I'm selling this CD because I upgraded
my T22 (model 2647-5EU) to the Thinkpad T23 and
unfortunately T22 CD won't work for me anymore.

The T22 Restore CD which I have contains Windows98SE,
as well as IBM System Utilities and drivers for T22 series.
The person who purchases this CD needs to have the original
Microsoft EULA and COA which came with the Thinkpad in
order to legally use the CD.

Also, to everyone who has concern regarding this sale, please
feel free to email me and I'll answer all of the emails. There is
absolutely no need to start a flame war here for no reason.

Regards,
--Andrey

----
"JHEM" <James@NO_SPAM.thinkpads.com> wrote in message
news:i3Mg8.14677$fI6.381@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> "M. Harris" <mharris@MAPSONcliffhanger.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.16ece8acb3b4b1ce9896da@news.west.cox.net...
>
> > Timothy was correct.  Restore disks are not like plain vanilla copies
> > of the operating system.  They are designed to function solely with
> > the system for which they were designed.  It *will not* work in
> > another computer and very likely it will not work even in a computer
> > of the same brand.  So unless someone has the *exact same* system for
> > which this restore disk was designed, it's completely useless.
>
> There are a number of inaccuracies in this thread, not the least of which
is
> the usefulness of these CDs.
>
> 1) Here in the US IBM will ship a set of recovery CDs to the purchaser of
> any of the late model A, T, X series machines for FREE! (I just got a set
> for my wife's new T22.) Even CDs for earlier systems are available, either
> for free or at a reduced cost, although IBM is quickly running out of them
> for older systems such as the 770, 600, etc.
>
> 2) The CDs aren't as machine specific as you might think and are usually
> released in a series version that is usable on a range of systems, e.g.
A30,
> T23, X23 would all use the same recovery CD. The recovery CDs for my T21
and
> my wife's T22 are the _same_ version no.!
>
> 3) Provided you have the correct drivers available, a later release of a
> recovery CD can often be used on an earlier machine. E.g., I can use the
W2K
> recovery CD that came with my 600X on my 600E without undue difficulty,
> which is pretty much to be expected. However you would probably be
surprised
> to learn that it could also be used in an ancient 760XL or a 755CD! (Not
> that I would ever do this however, as that would be illegal and Bill Gates
> would hunt me down and castrate me with a rusty beer can! Or so I've been
> told.)
>
> Andrey's offering of these CDs is something that could prove useful to
many
> and his price is fair, particularly if you don't qualify for a free set
from
> IBM. The only things you really have to bear in mind were you to take
> advantage of his offer is that the CDs don't come with a COA or EULA!
>
> Good luck with the sale Andrey, I'm sure there are many who could find a
use
> for the CDs. Hell, for $30 I might just pickup an extra set for my library
> myself!
>
> Regards,
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>

I know very little about the OEM disks that come with IBMs, but I do know
that with Dell, the reinstall disk is REAL operating system disk, not just a
lousy disk image (like a compaq for example... shudder).  That disk can also
be used on ANY Dell.  The only thing it checks is if it's a Dell bios.  Just
a little heads up.  ;-)



"LARRY" <sorry@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:a600br$a95u8$1@ID-110957.news.dfncis.de...
> Model Number is the KEY
> As unless one were to send in there unit after Purchase
> Each Model Number is made the same with the same parts
> and when I say model I refer not to the T22
> But the Other Number Given Called : Type Number
> For Example
>    I have in front of me a Model:310 ED
> But the Type Number is a 2600-**X-**XXX
> The *'S Represent Numbers and the X 'S are Letters
> The Point here is This is what tells IBM What Parts This 310ED Has
> Now the only Kicker to this as well is
> If this Unit were sent in under say a three year Warranty
> The Parts No longer Available would be Swapped with Replacement Parts
>    One last thing to point out is this though
> In Most Cases the Model Numbers can Restore disks are all the same
> as their only thing given Options to buying Customers is
> Size of Hard drives and Amount of Ram
> If a Customer were to call Order a System
> That went beyond what were offered as far as Speed of CPU and or Even
Units
> having instead a DVD and or CD Burner
> The Letters after the Number would Indicate what the unit came with
>    Where what this Gentleman is selling is Of GREAT Use to a T22 Owner is
If
> Say I bought a Used Unit and Or Refurbished unit from some sellers The
> Restore disks are not part of the sale many times
>    And or if I were to By a Larger Hard Drive after buying the unit
> The Restore disks would be of Great Use
>    Only buyers Can Decide the Value of these Disks
> So One owning a System that may have Ruined Their set up and might know
> Nothing
> about how to restore it would place a Higher Value than one having some
> Knowledge
> "M. Harris" <mharris@MAPSONcliffhanger.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.16ece8acb3b4b1ce9896da@news.west.cox.net...
> > Mon, 04 Mar 2002 01:56:23 GMT : Andrey says...
> >
> > > > "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > > > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > > > > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > > > > --
> > > > > --Andrey
> > > > >
> >
> > > "Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > > Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone
> with
> > > > the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system...
> your
> > > > selling.. vaporware
> > > >
> >
> > > Not exactly. What happens if your system is out of warranty and you
> > > erase MBR (Master Boot Record) which gives you the option for F11?
> > > You will not be possible to get to the hidden partition without 3-rd
> party
> > > programs. The cheapest one, Partition Magic will run well over $70.
> > >
> > > Second of all, if you're not interested in CD, I absolutely don't see
a
> > > point in your comment, which besides being pointless, is inaccurate as
> well.
> > > --
> > > --Andrey
> >
> > Timothy was correct.  Restore disks are not like plain vanilla copies
> > of the operating system.  They are designed to function solely with
> > the system for which they were designed.  It *will not* work in
> > another computer and very likely it will not work even in a computer
> > of the same brand.  So unless someone has the *exact same* system for
> > which this restore disk was designed, it's completely useless.
>
>

just let the guy sell his dam cd.. what the hell you all bickering about?
"LARRY" <sorry@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:a600c9$aeill$1@ID-110957.news.dfncis.de...
> Model Number is the KEY
> As unless one were to send in there unit after Purchase
> Each Model Number is made the same with the same parts
> and when I say model I refer not to the T22
> But the Other Number Given Called : Type Number
> For Example
>    I have in front of me a Model:310 ED
> But the Type Number is a 2600-**X-**XXX
> The *'S Represent Numbers and the X 'S are Letters
> The Point here is This is what tells IBM What Parts This 310ED Has
> Now the only Kicker to this as well is
> If this Unit were sent in under say a three year Warranty
> The Parts No longer Available would be Swapped with Replacement Parts
>    One last thing to point out is this though
> In Most Cases the Model Numbers can Restore disks are all the same
> as their only thing given Options to buying Customers is
> Size of Hard drives and Amount of Ram
> If a Customer were to call Order a System
> That went beyond what were offered as far as Speed of CPU and or Even
Units
> having instead a DVD and or CD Burner
> The Letters after the Number would Indicate what the unit came with
>    Where what this Gentleman is selling is Of GREAT Use to a T22 Owner is
If
> Say I bought a Used Unit and Or Refurbished unit from some sellers The
> Restore disks are not part of the sale many times
>    And or if I were to By a Larger Hard Drive after buying the unit
> The Restore disks would be of Great Use
>    Only buyers Can Decide the Value of these Disks
> So One owning a System that may have Ruined Their set up and might know
> Nothing
> about how to restore it would place a Higher Value than one having some
> Knowledge
> "Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> > Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone
with
> > the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system... your
> > selling.. vaporware
> >
> >
> > "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> > >
> > > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > > --
> > > --Andrey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Thank you!
--
--Andrey

"maddhatter" <pynkind@cox.net> wrote in message
news:k0_h8.8657$H04.167294@news2.west.cox.net...
> just let the guy sell his dam cd.. what the hell you all bickering about?

> "LARRY" <sorry@noreply.com> wrote in message
> news:a600c9$aeill$1@ID-110957.news.dfncis.de...
> > Model Number is the KEY
> > As unless one were to send in there unit after Purchase
> > Each Model Number is made the same with the same parts
> > and when I say model I refer not to the T22
> > But the Other Number Given Called : Type Number
> > For Example
> >    I have in front of me a Model:310 ED
> > But the Type Number is a 2600-**X-**XXX
> > The *'S Represent Numbers and the X 'S are Letters
> > The Point here is This is what tells IBM What Parts This 310ED Has
> > Now the only Kicker to this as well is
> > If this Unit were sent in under say a three year Warranty
> > The Parts No longer Available would be Swapped with Replacement Parts
> >    One last thing to point out is this though
> > In Most Cases the Model Numbers can Restore disks are all the same
> > as their only thing given Options to buying Customers is
> > Size of Hard drives and Amount of Ram
> > If a Customer were to call Order a System
> > That went beyond what were offered as far as Speed of CPU and or Even
> Units
> > having instead a DVD and or CD Burner
> > The Letters after the Number would Indicate what the unit came with
> >    Where what this Gentleman is selling is Of GREAT Use to a T22 Owner
is
> If
> > Say I bought a Used Unit and Or Refurbished unit from some sellers The
> > Restore disks are not part of the sale many times
> >    And or if I were to By a Larger Hard Drive after buying the unit
> > The Restore disks would be of Great Use
> >    Only buyers Can Decide the Value of these Disks
> > So One owning a System that may have Ruined Their set up and might know
> > Nothing
> > about how to restore it would place a Higher Value than one having some
> > Knowledge
> > "Timothy E. Tackman" <ttackman@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:iZmg8.24989$2v6.1084839@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > Now this is funny... the only person who would need this is somewone
> with
> > > the system.  Since the restore disk is included with the system...
your
> > > selling.. vaporware
> > >
> > >
> > > "Andrey" <MrDreys@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:T7gg8.24603$2v6.1054094@news1.west.cox.net...
> > > > I have brand new sealed IBM Thinkpad T22 System Restore CD.
> > > >
> > > > IBM sells these CDs for $35 plus shipping. I can do $30 shipped.
> > > > Please e-mail me if you're interested. Thanks,
> > > > --
> > > > --Andrey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>